Another modified milarm to share

[LawrenceN]

This one was came into my hands as an unwanted gift. Though it was in full military furniture, the bolt & action had mismatched serial numbers. I had originally thought it to be in 8x50r Austrian Mannlicher, an almost unattainable cartridge. Then I found out that it had been re-barreled by the military after the "Anschluss" into the standard german 8mm service calibre. The iron sights were canted to the left, due (I suspect) to the fact that the barrels had the sights pre-fixed, and then had to be head-spaced onto the new actions. Even with some dirty filthy Yugoslav milsurp ammo, and the wonky sights, it still printed a 1-1/2" group at 100 yds.! Tarted up like this, it'll put your standard Winchester 170gr. 8mm ammo into a 5/8" circle (5 shots). Very nice game getter!

 

[mbogo3]

The Greeks,Yugoslavs and Bulgarians converted many M95's to shoot the 8X57S round.They are typically marked M95/24 or M95M.Conversion includes a new bolt head,extractor,ejector and barrel.Bottom of mag well closed and internal magazine to do away with old style clip.............Harold

 

[Claven2]

You sporterized an M95M !?!!?!?!?!?!???!?!?!?

Are you an IDIOT?

They made less than 120,000 of them and almost all are mismatched today, and certainly only a tiny fraction survived ww2. A matching M95M in 8mm Mauser, is a $500+ RARE rifle. A m/m one is still AT LEAST a $300 milsurp in Canada. In the states, it's still a $500+ gun.

Now it's a $50 truck gun. Good show. Jolly good show.

Some people's kids.

 

[happydude]

WTF!

Any chance you can un-do most of what has been done?

 

[Claven2]

I doubt it - our hero drilled and tapped it, chopped the bbl, removed the rear sight, and god knows what else.

I mean REALLY folks. Doesn't ANYONE bother to go read up on un-sporterized guns BEFORE reaching for the hacksaw??? Would you manage your RSSPs and stocks so carelessly?

 

[Sigismund]

I disaprove, but that's all one can do. It's a shame such a rifle had to end up this way, but that is ultimately the rilfe owners choise.

 

[DAR 701]

That makes the un-bubba'd M95M rifles worth just a little bit more now...

 

[Claven2]

For information on these guns, look here:

http://milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=1898


Threads like this one at MSC exist to PREVENT what happened above. PLEASE USE THE EASY TO FIND REFERENCE MATERIAL BEFORE ALTERING A NICE GUN.

For the benefit of our new member who did this to his gun, you are getting extreme backlash because this forum is for milsurp preservation, appreciation and collection. Most ppl here would sooner restore a butcher job than to create one. If you want to show off your home-gunsmithing skills, the gunsmithing forum elsewhere on this site if far more appropriate. Posting this here will only enflame tempers.

 

[punkrockboy]

Calling a newbie an Idiot is a great way to make a person feel welcome in the shooting sports, just what we need to encourage more people to get into shooting!!!Right on!
To each there own, if thats how you like your gun, all the power to you.Obviously, you enjoy shooting it more than looking at it, all the power to you!

 

[chanman]

I take it from his description that there's now a set of M95 wood available for someone else... right?

 

[H Wally]

Calling a newbie an Idiot is a great way to make a person feel welcome in the shooting sports, just what we need to encourage more people to get into shooting!!!Right on!
To each there own, if thats how you like your gun, all the power to you.Obviously, you enjoy shooting it more than looking at it, all the power to you!

Since you're new to the forums I'll let you in on a secret. Sporterising saveable rifles is the quickest way to get yourself banned in this forum.

I'm also curious why you took a useable and rare gun and burnt money on it to turn it into something that's worth only the sum of its parts sold off....

In today's age it's much cheaper and easier to take an already butchered gun and modify it. It costs you less, doesn't alter an unattainable rifle, and still looks good. I dunno, doesn't make any sense to me...

 

[TheWharGoul]

You have upset the Milsurp gods.. Their wrath shall be brought upon you.

If I had the knowledge base that some of you do here on this forum id cry myself to sleep knowing these things happen. luckily I live in an semi-ignorant bliss.

 

[Ljungman]

Wow....the horror never ends....

 

[SKScanuck]

To each his own.

If this was done to my gun I'd be upset. It a'int my gun so it matters not...

 

[shortandlong]

you people who are mourning the desecration of a milsurp are missing an important fact.................

ITS HIS FRICKEN RIFLE!!!!!!! he could have a long branch sniper and if he wants to chop it who are we to call the guy names ?

LawrenceN

welcome to the forum

 

[happydude]

It's his rifle and it's his right to do anything he wants to.

It's also our right to call him an idiot for ruining the collector value of a rare rifle and destroying a piece of history. There those of us that appreciate that a milsurp is not just another deer gun, it's something more.

And PS, welcome to the forum

 

[Coyote Ugly]

It's his rifle and he can do what he wants with it.

I just love the Chest Pounding on CGN, better than old reruns of Stampede Wrestling!!!

 

[Calum]

Calling a newbie an Idiot is a great way to make a person feel welcome in the shooting sports, just what we need to encourage more people to get into shooting!!!Right on!

I'm sure hurt feelings will heal, but that rifle will never be the same again.
Oh well at least it is getting used instead of sitting in a closet somewhere.

 

[JacquesT]

M95 short and long...

I had a pair of these for some time, the long one and the short one...they were readily available from Century firearm in Montreal (1988..)...about 50-75$ each...odd caliber, not much significance from a Canadian perspective...
Sold mine shortly after...

I am sure many museum have pristine specimens for posterity...and serious collectors can find what they need...this sporterise one is probably a rare specimen now as not too many shooters have great interest in this rifle originally in 8X56 it is?

Enjoy!

 

[Beadwindow]

This one was came into my hands as an unwanted gift. Though it was in full military furniture, the bolt & action had mismatched serial numbers. I had originally thought it to be in 8x50r Austrian Mannlicher, an almost unattainable cartridge. Then I found out that it had been re-barreled by the military after the "Anschluss" into the standard german 8mm service calibre. The iron sights were canted to the left, due (I suspect) to the fact that the barrels had the sights pre-fixed, and then had to be head-spaced onto the new actions. Even with some dirty filthy Yugoslav milsurp ammo, and the wonky sights, it still printed a 1-1/2" group at 100 yds.! Tarted up like this, it'll put your standard Winchester 170gr. 8mm ammo into a 5/8" circle (5 shots). Very nice game getter!

Hi Lawrence and welcome to the forums!

Please don't take it personally if people get upset at your posting. It's just that it disturbs many of us when we see a highly collectable rifle permanently altered in a manner that greatly depreciates both its value while diminishing the number of historically significant firearms available. Many of us probably own rifles that had been cut up decades ago that we would have happily have given you plus some money rather than see what happened to yours. At least it's nice to see that it shoots really well and will be taken good care of, though most people here thinking of building up a rifle based on a military action would use a collection of parts, previously cut down rifle or one whose barrel is beyond hope and in need of a replacement. If you saved the wood and metalwork that you took off of your rifle, that alone might be worth more than your rifle, minus the optics and mounts.

Please don't let this discourage you from frequenting the site......... many of those complaining are probably upset about having done the same to some rifle twenty years ago that would be worth a fair bit of change today.

Cheers,

Frank