Another SKS that uses Type-81 magazines

This, in my opinion, is a major improvement to the SKS. I would actually prefer this over something like a Type 81 or M10X just from the standpoint of SKS parts availability in Canada but the added detachable magazine system, left side cocking handle and bolt release features take the rifle to a whole new level. I also like how the pistol grip is now a part of the fire control group such that you no longer have to unscrew a bolt securing the pistol grip in order to remove the fire control group out of the stock as is the case with most of the aftermarket pistol-gripped SKS stocks from ATI, Tapco, Choate and FAB Defense. By doing so you've maintained the simple and expedient take-down procedure of the original SKS concept while at the same time improving upon it. I look forward to seeing what else you come up with.
 
Each of the modifications in this system addresses one or more of the shortcomings of the SKS accessory aftermarket.
I didn't consider any part of the design complete if it required trading away any of the original rifle's simplicity of design philosophy.
I'm so glad that Type-81 magazines are now available in Canada, since I was never truly satisfied with the performance of the detachable magazines available.

Teppo87 said:
This, in my opinion, is a major improvement to the SKS. I would actually prefer this over something like a Type 81 or M10X just from the standpoint of SKS parts availability in Canada but the added detachable magazine system, left side cocking handle and bolt release features take the rifle to a whole new level. I also like how the pistol grip is now a part of the fire control group such that you no longer have to unscrew a bolt securing the pistol grip in order to remove the fire control group out of the stock as is the case with most of the aftermarket pistol-gripped SKS stocks from ATI, Tapco, Choate and FAB Defense. By doing so you've maintained the simple and expedient take-down procedure of the original SKS concept while at the same time improving upon it. I look forward to seeing what else you come up with.
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truly ingenious. i know you been working on this for a long time and have done alot of amazing work but talking about just the mag conversion (to sks-d). what do you think the chance of success and working properly for an average joe doing it for the first time? machinery needed?
 
Teppo87 said:
This, in my opinion, is a major improvement to the SKS. I would actually prefer this over something like a Type 81 or M10X just from the standpoint of SKS parts availability in Canada but the added detachable magazine system, left side cocking handle and bolt release features take the rifle to a whole new level. I also like how the pistol grip is now a part of the fire control group such that you no longer have to unscrew a bolt securing the pistol grip in order to remove the fire control group out of the stock as is the case with most of the aftermarket pistol-gripped SKS stocks from ATI, Tapco, Choate and FAB Defense. By doing so you've maintained the simple and expedient take-down procedure of the original SKS concept while at the same time improving upon it. I look forward to seeing what else you come up with.
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I, personally, consider this SK22 mod to be superior to the M10X in SO many ways, with the exception of the M10X's ability to easily mount optics, and the folding stock. I think it's ahead of the T81 as well.... folding stock is about the only thing that platform has going for it over the SK22
 
Looking great. Love the charging handle. I think there could even be a way to have the charging handle spring-loaded so that it folds forward when not in use, and then folds out to lock at 90 degrees for charging, then folds away when you let go.

Out of curiosity, what's the 22 part of the SK-22 name?
 
ReverendX said:
Do you plan to share the "how to" directions for others who would do this build on their own?
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Or, do you plan to offer these conversions for sale - either with the SKS supplied by the customer or yourself?

I'd be in for one - AND you can even have my numbers matching (except stock) SKS for the conversion!
 
Curtton said:
... talking about just the mag conversion (to sks-d). what do you think the chance of success and working properly for an average joe doing it for the first time? machinery needed?
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I use a die grinder with a 5/16" ball-nosed carbide burr for the bulk of the material removal. Operating this tool is a sort of cross between free-handing a router, and using a Dremel. I wouldn't recommend it to someone didn't have a lot of experience with rotary tools - it has all the liabilities of a dremel, but with a significantly more powerful motor.

Obviously you don't need to use a tool like this, because you don't need to complete the milling in 15 minutes.

A minimum standard of tooling to accomplish this conversion in a reasonable timeframe would be a dremel-type rotary tool, with a selection of carbide cutting burrs, sanding drums, and a disc type grinding stone to cut the front magazine notch.
There are far too many considerations to list here, but I do consider the process to be straightforward enough for someone who is reasonably handy.
If you can carve a duck out of wood with a rotary tool, you can cut a magazine well.
I can probably make a forum post detailing the process and considerations that I follow
 
shredder said:
Or, do you plan to offer these conversions for sale - either with the SKS supplied by the customer or yourself?

I'd be in for one - AND you can even have my numbers matching (except stock) SKS for the conversion!
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CGN gets a bit touchy about users who aren't business members offering services outside of the E.E.
I try to avoid business-y type discussions out here in the open
 
RabbitTeeth said:
Looking great. Love the charging handle. I think there could even be a way to have the charging handle spring-loaded so that it folds forward when not in use, and then folds out to lock at 90 degrees for charging, then folds away when you let go.
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There certainly could. Most of these mods don't represent the highest possible level of functionality. Typically they are optimized for ease of fabrication
 
Impressive work. I have seen some conversions over the years myself and this one stands out for being highly practical and mechanically superb. Most go just for looks. Probably too expensive to contract out for the average Joe.
 
WmMcLeod said:
I use a die grinder with a 5/16" ball-nosed carbide burr for the bulk of the material removal. Operating this tool is a sort of cross between free-handing a router, and using a Dremel. I wouldn't recommend it to someone didn't have a lot of experience with rotary tools - it has all the liabilities of a dremel, but with a significantly more powerful motor.

Obviously you don't need to use a tool like this, because you don't need to complete the milling in 15 minutes.

A minimum standard of tooling to accomplish this conversion in a reasonable timeframe would be a dremel-type rotary tool, with a selection of carbide cutting burrs, sanding drums, and a disc type grinding stone to cut the front magazine notch.
There are far too many considerations to list here, but I do consider the process to be straightforward enough for someone who is reasonably handy.
If you can carve a duck out of wood with a rotary tool, you can cut a magazine well.
I can probably make a forum post detailing the process and considerations that I follow
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thanks for the reply. i got no die grinder and it sound like with a dremel it would be alot of work and that is if it works properly.
 
i was looking at trying to add a bolt catch/hold open device to a D model but it's not machined like the fixed mag versions. I also notice on the M , they have welded the bolt catch to the receiver. Looks like I need to buy a couple more sks rifles to tinker with and leave those older ones alone LOL
 
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