Another Stevens 200 Story - .223 - 1/3 MOA for $600 bucks

mlehtovaara said:
Strange sear disengagement? Please explain. I have never really compared it to any other rifle, or really taken any others apart.
Click to expand...

A friend's Savage actioned rifle, the sear is a kind of round thing on the bolt.
Therefore it requires a clear path in the stock, for it's "action movement."
It's different IMHO, but it works okay obviously. Please don'y let my meager opinion influence you in any negative way.
Your marksmanship with this rifle, is solid proof enough.

Cheers.............
 
Brutus said:
A friend's Savage actioned rifle, the sear is a kind of round thing on the bolt.
Therefore it requires a clear path in the stock, for it's "action movement."
It's different IMHO, but it works okay obviously. Please don'y let my meager opinion influence you in any negative way.
Your marksmanship with this rifle, is solid proof enough.

Cheers.............
Click to expand...

I am just simply curious is all? I dont have any experience taking down any other rifles just shooting them and have not really noticed any difference. Not that it really makes much difference to me anyways. Not like Ill be trading this guy in any time soon, or ever for that matter!
 
On another note I noticed that some guys posting their groups are shooting from a rest that gives full support to the rifle. I have never done this but am curious to know if this would give me much benefit over a bipod and a sandbag. What are long range shooters using for a setup? I have sen some rests avaiable for pretty cheap and just always though that that isnt really any fun. It can show what your rifle can do but not really what the shooter can do is what I am thinking. Should I get one just to see what happens or is it just a waste of time, and money. I guess it would be good for zeroing a scope but to actually use it to shoot just seems boring to me.
 
IMHO, the way you are currently shooting lets you develop some shooting skills. Using a benchrest type rest is done specifically to isolate the rifle from outside influences; heart beats, breathing, ect. If you want to continue developing shooting skills, try watching the wind before each shot, using the EXACT same hold from shot to shot, firing at the same point in your breathing pattern each time. Personally, I think you will have more of a challenge going in the direction you're in than the whole bechrest thing. My opinion.
As an aside, a fellow CGNer told me 2-3 years ago that the Stevens 200 could be a tack-driver. Should have listened cause his crystal ball was right yet again!
 
But I see guys posting these tiny groups, and then not mentioning they were shooting from a rest! IMHO that is kinda not right. If you take out all the human factor than you are not showing any skill. SImply lining up the crosshairs and letting the rifle do all the work. I would just be interested to see wha this rifle will actually do with a rest, and no human error. I guess it all depends on what you are looking to do. Test the rifle or test yourself. I am more interested in the latter. I would love to see this thing do better that 0.3 inches but I dont know that I could ever hold my rifle that steady. I am thinking it would be a good tool for load development though. That way you are just measuring how well the load and rifle work together.
 
You establish a baseline for accuracy off a rested platform to make sure the rifle can shoot. Once that's established, then you test yourself with different scenarios and positions. But until you confirm what the rifle is or isn't doing, no sense wasting time and ammo guessing.
 
While I agree that you need to know what a particular rifle is capable of doing so as not to waste your time, that rifle will be used by a HUMAN and as such will be, IMHO, should be tested by a human. The best shooters can arguably be said to be armed forces snipers; they do not spend a lot of time shooting from a benchrest.
In the end, the decision is a personal one. I tested my Norinco JW-25A, scoped, with a crap-load of ammo in all conditions, from all positions just for kicks. Could I have gotten smaller groups from a rest? Sure could have, but I'll never shoot like that when I'm likely to have the rifle out with me so why bother? Again, my opinion only.
Cheers!!:)
 
I have had my stevens in 223 for just over a month. I couldn't see any reason spending big bucks for a savage or remington when the stevens is still basically a savage.

I was very impressed with my groupings with factory ammo right out of the box. I am sure they will tighten up with some handloads. I had planned on doing upgrades but after shooting it the first time I will be saving my money for other things.
 
Ok, really, I think there should be a Stevens 200 sticky in the hunting/sporting firearms forum or just a new forum just for a the Stevens 200.

Here is mine in .223 all so, bought just before Christmas

Now that has been said:
100yrds, 5 shots yes there are 5,shooting off a bench using a bi-pod
April17th2010Targets001.jpg

Interesting how the first three shots are touching but the last two are off to the right, like that with just about every group I shoot.:confused:

Tried my luck at 400yrds for the first time ever, 5 shots, all shot from a bi-pod again right after I got back from setting up the target. Had some funny gusts of wind past 150 yrds:
April17th2010Targets003.jpg

Wasn't to sure where or even if I was going to be on paper at that distance but I figure , what the hay it's a great day for a walk.
Again the first three shots together with the last two off to the right:confused:


High jack over:p


Russ
 
Nice shooting! My range only goes out to 200 but next time I'm out I will be sure to take some shots if its not to windy. I will post for everyones enjoyment. Nice shooting at 400 yards. With a .223 the wind can really mess with you at that distance. I need to get out soon but its raining pretty hard right now here. I just loaded up 50 of the same rounds that gave me that 0.330 inch group so I'm dyin to get out there again!
 
"Again the first three shots together with the last two off to the right:confused:"

I actually think that seeing the "3&2" grouping like that is a good thing.. It is showing that the gun is very consistant. A little bedding or look for some contact in the barrel channel might fix it, but at least you know that the first 3 will always be together...as it heats up the next 2 move out right...you can work with that. My .02$ anyway
 
thepitchedlink said:
"Again the first three shots together with the last two off to the right:confused:"

I actually think that seeing the "3&2" grouping like that is a good thing.. It is showing that the gun is very consistant. A little bedding or look for some contact in the barrel channel might fix it, but at least you know that the first 3 will always be together...as it heats up the next 2 move out right...you can work with that. My .02$ anyway
Click to expand...

It's hard to say what is the cause of the interesting groups. The wind down at the range here in Lethbridge does some really weird things.
One thing that I noticed when I first got this rifle was the trigger, it needed a good pull on it to fire the round int he chamber and I could see that when ever I started to squeeze the trigger I could see the cross hairs moving to the right a wee bit, now that I have a few hundred rounds through it things are getting better. At some point I do plan on replacing the trigger with one of those after market one that everyone seems so fond of but first I think I am going to try this: http://www.varminthunters.com/tech/savage/ Then decided if I really need to go the after market route or not.
I have stiffened up the for-end with 2 1/4 key stock, one on each side, and accriglass, and bedded the recoil lug and bbl nut. I keep looking at the receiver and wonder if I should even attempt at bedding that or not looks a bit tricky with that center feed mag stuck in the stock. At some point in time I may change the stock, but for now the stock stock has been great thing for my learning curve, now I just need to paint it to hide any evidence of those two little goof ups:p

Russ
 
The forward most screw on the trigger can be turned out almost all the way which lightens the trigger up quite a bit. I don't have any guage but would say its under 4 pounds. It is very useable and I don't really have any issues with it. Just be sure to give the gun a couple whacks to be sure it won't go off accidentaly. Mine is for range use only at this point so I want to go as low as possible. It works well.
 
I'm very satisfied with my stevens 200 here is the proof.First time at the range after sighting it in.
014.jpg


this was with my friends hand loads,100 meter 4 shot group don't mind the flyer that was my fault:rolleyes:
Oh ya less than 550.00 into it pretty good in my books.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom