Another tiresome value of milsurps thread

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I know, another tiresome what are they worth thread, but I have always had fair assessments here.

Time to thin the herd again. I will add pics soonest, but in the meantime looking for approx value as I do not see these on the EE much:

Astra 600 9mm Parabellum, Chilean Air Force contract, excellent all correct and matching.

Finnish Lahti 9 mm Parabellum, excellent condition, but bluing wear from holster, so say very good, all correct and matching

Japanese Arisakas Type 44 Carbine with second pattern (rarest) folding bayonet. Not sure if a mismatch as Arisaka numbering is a tad confusing between serial numbers and manufacture codes, very good condition, gorgeous pre war bluing with bolt dust over. Downside is it is completely shot out, so a collector not a shooter version of a rare rifle.

Very late war Arisaka Type 99 Last Ditch. All correct late war. Wooden butt plate, cylindrical bolt knob, fixed peep etc. Forget the series number offhand. Also have a last ditch bayonet square pommel, straight quillion, no fuller with twine bound wooden scabbard and original green paint to go with it. I spent a long time trying to find the best of the last of Imperial arms so to speak. Both in excellent condition.

Any input appreciated.
 
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4b1t said:
Egyptian Rashid 7.62x39. excellent condition, all correct and matching.
800-1200$ range
Egyptian Hakim 8mm. Very good to excellent, all correct and matching. Correct bayonet with it.
500-800$, maybe a bit more as it does have the bayonet
Astra 600 9mm Parabellum, Chilean Air Force contract, excellent all correct and matching.
800-1200$ though I am not 100% sure on these, I don't follow pistol prices nearly as much as rifle prices
Finnish Lahti 9 mm Parabellum, excellent condition, but bluing wear from holster, so say very good, all correct and matching
1200-2000$ again I am not the best at pistol prices, but this is a particularly desirable pistol especially in excellent condition
Japanese Arisakas Type 44 Carbine with second pattern (rarest) folding bayonet. Not sure if a mismatch as Arisaka numbering is a tad confusing between serial numbers and manufacture codes, very good condition, gorgeous pre war bluing with bolt dust over. Downside is it is completely shot out, so a collector not a shooter version of a rare rifle.
600-1200$, the fact it is shot out is really a value killer
Very late war Arisaka Type 99 Last Ditch. All correct late war. Wooden butt plate, cylindrical bolt knob, fixed peep etc. Forget the series number offhand. Also have a last ditch bayonet square pommel, straight quillion, no fuller with twine bound wooden scabbard and original green paint to go with it. I spent a long time trying to find the best of the last of Imperial arms so to speak. Both in excellent condition.
[600-800$ Last ditch Type 99s aren't nearly as desirable as the earlier ones from what I have seen
Any input appreciated.
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I gave some rough values based on my experience above in the blue. Definitely sounds like some interesting items.
 
The Lahti is not a $2k gun. Cool, but not Finn luger cool. More like $1200-1400 on the high side. Average ones selling for $800 or so.
 
Depends on what the buyer is after. I've not seen one type sell for more over the other. I'm a Finn collector, so I don;t care about the Swedish ones, but there are LOTS of Swede Mauser collectors who adore the Swedish Lahtis.
 
The reason why I am asking, there is a Swedish Lathi for sale in excellent condition for ~$800.
How do they shoot?
 
They are not the best design, really. There's a reason they aren't in service anywhere today. But cool nevertheless for what they are.

The sights, like most contemporary guns, are not great.
 
Claven2 said:
They are not the best design, really. There's a reason they aren't in service anywhere today. But cool nevertheless for what they are.
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Pretty much none of its contemporaries are in service today. Only one I can think of is the Browning Hi-Power, and even then it is on the way out in most countries.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Pretty much none of its contemporaries are in service today. Only one I can think of is the Browning Hi-Power, and even then it is on the way out in most countries.
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I can think of a few still in use by some military and police forces, and not in 3rd world countries either.

-1911
-Walther PPK
-S&W Model 10
-Walther P1 (P38 variant)
-Hi-Power
 
From Wikipedia:

Current Users:
Austria
Chad: P1 variant.
Chile: Chilean Army.
Independent State of Croatia
Finland: Finnish UN peacekeeping forces, P1 variant.
Germany: P1 variant.
Kingdom of Hungary
Italy
Lebanon
Macedonia: P1 variant.
Mozambique
Pakistan
Portugal: Portuguese Army.
South Africa: Standard sidearm of SA Police.
Sweden: HP variant.
 
that must be a very old chart, Austria uses the Glock since 20 years, and Germany replaced the P1 nearly 15 years ago.
 
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