I look at RC mausers as a war trophy from another time period. They have history and pinache along with being guiltless shooters. I love mine and it is at least 80% matching. It gives me great pleasure ringing the 300yd gongs, so it has value others cant see with their dont-touch all originals.
another whats it worth....if RC k98s are worth 1000.00 plus
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Rc k98 rifles have value as collectors and as shooters. I for one am grateful to have several and they mean just as much to me as the all matching examples that i also own .not everyone can afford a 3000 dollar rifle that you can only look at and fondle because if you shoot it you may damage it.
It isn’t 80% matching lol. None are
That's exactly what Mitchell's offerings are. However, many of the pieces they offer just aren't available without a lot of searching. I've seen a couple of MMs and IMHO they were very pretty representatives of the TYPE. I could swear some of the K98s were Yugo made and later stamped to look like they were German. I saw a couple of the Mauser pistols and Lugers they offered. They were all heavily polished to remove pits etc. The Lugers at least had been rebarreled. The C96 Mausers had 75% bores.
For the price, which IMHO was to high, you get a completely refinished firearm, likely with post period replacement parts of dubious quality that is to the untrained eye, very pretty and a decent, shootable representative piece that won't gain in value.
IMHO the East German Police reworks are much more collectible. All were remanufactured to as new condition, while retaining as many matching parts as possible. Great pains were taken to keep all serviceable parts together.
I had one of those. I was told it was a capture. I was duped and through my own lack of knowledge, I likely had a rifle that came out of a damaged warehouse that had suffered from the elements then was refinished. All of it's parts matched, including the capture screws but the wing safety had an electropenciled number. Otherwise it looked like a pristine BYF44, k98, almost fresh from the factory.
I was later informed by an importer I knew that the rifle I had was indeed an East German Police rifle, as a very knowledgeable CGNer had called it when I sent him pics.
I should have known better. I have stripped, cleaned, replaced parts on thousands of K98s when I worked at Lever Arms. They came in from all over the world, of course mostly through import/distributors and often were brought in by Alan himself for resale to those importer/distributors. Looking back, Alan would have laughed at my lack of knowledge. I made the same mistake a lot of people make that repair items. I knew the components inside out and what their relationship was to every other component and when it could go wrong but I had neglected to research the history.
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I guess mine got past Anastasiya, Ivan, Olga and Boris all at once. Stock cartouche still visible even with shellac on top, all dirty bird intact, original worn bluing still present and bit of pitting by place. And it shoot better than me. Pretty good for a turd id say
They are about 16% matching. Out of the 31 parts that the early war rifles had numbered, 5 generally match on RCs. Barrel, receiver, rear sight base, front sight blade and front sight base. Obviously elecropencil numbers don't count.
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Svetlana had a hangover and couldn’t figure out how to take off all the parts or she would have! Lol
Really it is only 2 matching parts on a RC - the barrel and receiver assemblies,
All the rest of the parts under the microscope just aren’t matching on the rifle.
Sight base front and rear are not numbered even on early guns. Barrel. Receiver, front sight blade.
Good catch AR, my mistake.
I did a recount, and I came up with 28 parts that would be serialized. Further corrections are welcome.
(Receiver, barrel, front sight, bolt stop, sight ramp, sight leaf, sight slide, sight like button, trigger, sear, trigger guard, mag floorplate, mag follower, fore action screw, aft action screw, cleaning rod, front band, bayonet lug, rear band, buttplate, stock, upper handguard, bolt body, cocking peice, bolt shroud, safety, firing pin, extractor.)
That being said, RCs vary in condition, and as others have said, a lot of fun to shoot. Still a working gun, a real K98k made up of (mismatched), German (mostly) parts.
As far as the east German refurb, pictures would be nice.
I did a recount, and I came up with 28 parts that would be serialized. Further corrections are welcome.
(Receiver, barrel, front sight, bolt stop, sight ramp, sight leaf, sight slide, sight like button, trigger, sear, trigger guard, mag floorplate, mag follower, fore action screw, aft action screw, cleaning rod, front band, bayonet lug, rear band, buttplate, stock, upper handguard, bolt body, cocking peice, bolt shroud, safety, firing pin, extractor.)
That being said, RCs vary in condition, and as others have said, a lot of fun to shoot. Still a working gun, a real K98k made up of (mismatched), German (mostly) parts.
As far as the east German refurb, pictures would be nice.
Sorry boys I can't do pics right now ...I don't know how to tell if the stock is German it is laminate ,blond in colour .the rifle serial number is written in pencil on the inside of the topwood and stock it looks like the day it was made just a bit of wear around the trigger guard.i have owned this rifle for a long time day before there was so much interest in them and many years before the rd guns came into Canada.
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For those of you who are still too blind to see it, let me come over to your
Your house and I can RC your brand new truck or car and make it a thing of beauty
Like you have never seen before!
I’ll Hammer, Grind, Belt Sand, Color dip and Cosmoline the whole interior and exterior
to your liking!
Your house and I can RC your brand new truck or car and make it a thing of beauty
Like you have never seen before!
I’ll Hammer, Grind, Belt Sand, Color dip and Cosmoline the whole interior and exterior
to your liking!
Lol, awesome.
I have a 1990 Nissan pickup that is RC'd.
I think the point is, if you can't afford or even have easy access to purchase the scarce original k98s that haven't been across bubba's kitchen table, a RC will scratch that k98 itch. They even had them at Canadian Tire till not too long ago.
The intent behind the post-war refurbishment process (including the grinding you mention above) was not at all to “polish a turd” or improve their value as you hint at. Following the massive onslaught of the Second World War thousands of captured/acquired/seized weapons were refurbed to ensure a standard quality of function and put into storage or sent to various satellite states/conflicts for use as one user mentioned. No one here is suggesting that an “RC” rifle is on par value wise as some of the firearms you mention above, but to put down the functionality of these rifles at a time they were needed and the historic relevance of these rifles is inaccurate at best.
I have owned several “RC” Kar98s as well as a few “non-RC” Kar98s and can honestly say I’ve enjoyed them all for what they are - functionable, historically relevant firearms that are much more available to the average shooter / collector over other examples.
Don’t put these rifles down since you don’t like them. No one here is trying to force you to buy one.
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It doesn't matter which way you hold a steamy dripping turd in your hand and glamorize it, talk about how great it was in it's glory days, before Russian Bubba got to it, and the pleasure it gives you sniffing it, it's still a turd! Now let me RC your Car or Truck!
I have a friend who collects all types of mausers, he has a RC K98 which is his "shooter" which is pretty much in un-issued condition, the bore is so shiney it will blind you, you never know, some times you might find a diamond in the rough.
