Anschutz 190 barrel woes

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Would it make any sense to re-barrel an Anschutz 190? A few years ago while testing ammo, I noticed a slight ring around the outside of the barrel, about 3/4 to the muzzle. I asked a few other shooters what they thought it might be, and the consensus was that it was a pressure ring caused by the improper removal of stuck bullet, likely compounded by another bullet hitting on the second shot ("I'm sure I fired, let's try again. . . .").

I've held onto it because it's just too nice to sell. It's fine for plinking and casual shooting, but isn't really up to my standards for even recreational target shooting. I'd also like to hand it down to my son in a few years when he's older and more mature -- the wood and bluing are in beautiful shape, the trigger's crisp, and it's just really fun to shoot. But it's only a $450 rifle, and I don't know that installing a new Lilja/Hart/Shilen/Gaillard barrel makes sense.

Any suggestions? And no, it wasn't my fault!

Jason
 
Have you ever heard of circumcision? I would lop off about 2 inches of barrel and recrown it before putting out around $600 for a new barrel.
 
maynard said:
Have you ever heard of circumcision? I would lop off about 2 inches of barrel and recrown it before putting out around $600 for a new barrel.
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If I cut the barrel down to remove the ring I'd only be left with a 16" barrel, so that's not really an option. And neither is putting a scope on it, since I consider that cheating. ;)

I've thought about digging around for a used Anschutz match barrel, but they're mostly sized for the Match 54 action and would throw the balance all out of whack. Unless a gunsmith could turn one down without ruining the barrel's harmonics. . . .

Jason
 
JasonJ said:
If I cut the barrel down to remove the ring I'd only be left with a 16" barrel, so that's not really an option. And neither is putting a scope on it, since I consider that cheating. ;)

I've thought about digging around for a used Anschutz match barrel, but they're mostly sized for the Match 54 action and would throw the balance all out of whack. Unless a gunsmith could turn one down without ruining the barrel's harmonics. . . .

Jason
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Jason,
Lop the two inches off, the add a bloop tube and front sight to get the sight radius back to where you need it. 16 inch barrels are plenty long enough for a .22.
The barrels on a Match 54 action are pressed in and pinned, I am not sure about the model 190.
 
OK, I take it that the bulge is 3/4 of the way down the barrel. You can't cut it at 16"; 18" is the legal minimum for an amputation of a bolt action rifle. You could cut it at 18+", counterbore back to behind the bulge, and add a bloop tube to get the desired sight radius. It might be easiest to rebarrel it, not with a custom barrel, but with another .22 barrel. You do see quality barrels turn up from time to time. The shank would have to be adjusted, extractor cuts made, chamber reamed. This isn't all that big a deal. I'm assuming that the 190 barrel is pinned in. Appropriate notches could be cut in the shank. Retrofitting a pinned barrel is a bit of a pain, though. Or, you could use the procedure recommended by Dr. Kolbe at Border Barrels, and bond it in with a Locktite product. He recommends this for installation of the Model 54 replacement barrels that he manufactures.
 
You can buy another gun cheaper than you can rebarrel.
Most of the Anschutz sporters use the same action so you could even buy a cheap sporter and change actions. Course, may not be any more accurate.
 
maynard said:
Jason,
Lop the two inches off, the add a bloop tube and front sight to get the sight radius back to where you need it. 16 inch barrels are plenty long enough for a .22.
The barrels on a Match 54 action are pressed in and pinned, I am not sure about the model 190.
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Maynard, even the Anschutz 54 actions in .222 Remington are pinned!:eek:

Wild concept, eh? BUT , the do shoot like crazy.
Cat
 
Anschutz 190

If it were me, I would look around for another CIL/Anschutz 190 and better still an Anschutz 54 Match. I have own both and the 54 is a much better gun. I bought my 54 for $600 (you have to be patient) and sold my 190 in new condition fully equipped for $450.

I would sell your 190 for whatever price you could get after explaining to the buyer what you have described here. You would be surprised how many people might not consider your problem to be major and you might be able to get up to $300 and more. I have seen the 190 going as low as $350 but not that often.

As far as some of the solutions prescribed here, mine would be to leave the barrel the same lenght to keep your sight radius and would ream the bore to slightly beyond the bulge. Barrel lenghts on 22 are not critical (not like higher caliber rifles) and I would be surprised if you could detect any change in performance after such a procedure.

Good luck!

Duke1
 
After re-reading the original post, I now see that the bulge is 3/4 to the muzzle, not 3/4" from the muzzle:redface:
Cut it to legal length, C'Bore it, and blooptube it. Quick and dirty and cheapest.
 
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