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Im looking at the

ANSCHUTZ 1761 HB MPR MULTI PURPOSE

and the

ANSCHUTZ 1903 R TACTICAL TRAINER

Now they are pretty much identical in price.

I dont know squat about the actions though. The tactical trainer checks off the boxes for being adjustable (mandatory, if I got the MPR id buy an adjustable stock)
but why are the actions labelled differently? What is the difference between them? I cant really tell.

This is going to be a range/fun/target, and prairie dogging gun.
 
great read, thanks!

Nothing really earth shattering on the newer version. Some small things, easier bolt throws, easier saftey, easier barrel replacements. Not really anything I think Id notice.
 
Rod B said:
Sometimes the new features that manufacturers offer are nothing more than a cheaper way to make their product.
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Anschutz 64 and 54 actions have been very serviceable for decades. Really the only complaint about them has been the ejection needs fine tuning in some cases, as is evidenced by their own literature.
 
Some new products are better but some other considerations are:

Overall weight.
Magazines . . . are they readily available or was this another change with this model.
It normally takes a few years before all the kinks are taken out of new products.
Scope sight mounting systems and rails.
Bolt throw and will a low mount be too low for bolt function.

With the proliferation of new products, many are never seen at our shoots.
Changes from one model to the next and year to year is impossible to keep up with.
Short of camping out at your gun to try and see what the shooting public is using.

Do not rely on what the last person said. Rifles that put all the bullets in one hole might be a reference to the hole in the barrel.

Since a lot of my shooting is with a bipod, the SCHNABEL fore end is a pain. Classic stocks with a stud meet my needs. Barrel lengths have to be considered.
 
I have a 1416 thumbhole and a 1761 with the same stock (and the 1761 MPR barreled action in a MDT XRS stock). The 1761 is a better shooter and the action is much nicer. Flat bottom on the 1761 vs round on the 1416, better stock fitment.

But the real difference is bolt throw, the 1416 has a distinctive two part bolt lift while the 1761 has a roller bearing assisted lift that is super smooth and a joy to use. I have also had an older Match 54 and I still prefer the 1761 action.
 
Poffels said:
I have a 1416 thumbhole and a 1761 with the same stock (and the 1761 MPR barreled action in a MDT XRS stock). The 1761 is a better shooter and the action is much nicer. Flat bottom on the 1761 vs round on the 1416, better stock fitment.

But the real difference is bolt throw, the 1416 has a distinctive two part bolt lift while the 1761 has a roller bearing assisted lift that is super smooth and a joy to use. I have also had an older Match 54 and I still prefer the 1761 action.
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Where did you get the XRS stock, MDT only has the LSS listed for annis

I was looking at going for a HB 1761 and buying a stock for it (to ditch the traditional hunting stocks)
Would be more then the 1903 trainer, but it would have their new action.

The tactical trainer is like 50 bucks less, has a few really nice features. Pic rail for optics, the fully adjustable stocks. Ect. Its very much a buy and go have fun.

for the tactical trainer its about 2250
the MPR is 2300 (would likely still need a chassis or cheek riser installed)

A plain jane 1761 HB 20" w two stage trigger is 2000 (but then id have to buy a chassis)

or ditch the annie entirely, get a CZ and buy a stock, still having spent under 1800 lol
 
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CZ with an IBI barrel is also an excellent choice, I have two.

The builds from Tesro are are a great way to go. CZ 457, MDT XRS and IBI barrel

Contact Brad at Nordic for the MDT stock, and barreled action, you won't get it through MDT as it's proprietary to Anschutz for the 1761
 
The only difference I was told why the 54 is better action, is the striker. You don't have that heavier striker that is found on the 64 action, and that you need to hold it on target longer.
 
Poffels said:
CZ with an IBI barrel is also an excellent choice, I have two.

The builds from Tesro are are a great way to go. CZ 457, MDT XRS and IBI barrel
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but those builds just appear to be parts "slapped" together. Probably works out fine most of the time, but sure would be nice if someone in Canada knew what they were doing with CZs, wouldn't it?
 
Leuchtkafer said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but those builds just appear to be parts "slapped" together. Probably works out fine most of the time, but sure would be nice if someone in Canada knew what they were doing with CZs, wouldn't it?
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I would assume a gun smith puts the barrel in and checks it. One would hope.
 
Leuchtkafer said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but those builds just appear to be parts "slapped" together. Probably works out fine most of the time, but sure would be nice if someone in Canada knew what they were doing with CZs, wouldn't it?
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Barrel tenons are cut to factory specs on the IBI barrels. If you need a tighter headspace then shimming the bolt is quite easy to do. If you were to go with a Lilja barrel, they cut their tenons longer than factory and then shim the barrel to change headspace.
 
The outstanding and I might say the only serious flaw in my Anschutz Model 64 action was the miserable little magazine release, which I improved by buying the kit sold by Nordic Marksmen.
 
Big Bad said:
The outstanding and I might say the only serious flaw in my Anschutz Model 64 action was the miserable little magazine release, which I improved by buying the kit sold by Nordic Marksmen.
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Tell me about it. My 1403 has the fat stock, so that mag release is recessed and worst than a oem ruger 1022 mag release.
 
Poffels said:
Barrel tenons are cut to factory specs on the IBI barrels. If you need a tighter headspace then shimming the bolt is quite easy to do. If you were to go with a Lilja barrel, they cut their tenons longer than factory and then shim the barrel to change headspace.
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The problem is that CZ receivers themselves are not always exactly identical. The result is that any drop-in barrel barrel tenon can be of a length that doesn't produce the standard goal of a .043" headspace. Of course, the same goes for all drop-in barrel tenons themselves -- they may not all be exact required length.
 
Poffels said:
CZ with an IBI barrel is also an excellent choice, I have two.

The builds from Tesro are are a great way to go. CZ 457, MDT XRS and IBI barrel

Contact Brad at Nordic for the MDT stock, and barreled action, you won't get it through MDT as it's proprietary to Anschutz for the 1761
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They have a really good price also,

I noticed they have different twist rates available.
 
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