Anti hunting relatives..

Trimmer 905 said:
I'd rather pull my fingernails out with pliers than ever acquiesce to the Liberal side of this family. Open their traps the wrong way and it's ON. Being the only Canadian,the largest part are big "R" Republican military (some still serving,others Viet Nam War vets) that won't tolerate the "pinko" side. It sure makes for some really interesting reunions.
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Both sides are good with hunting and we all have a deep respect for military service... that being said... some topics are avoided over Christmas. lol
 
Interesting thread. My ex-MIL and FIL, now both gone, were somewhat tolerant of my evil gun collection. Not that their views ever slowed me down. They knew I hunted and used to take their daughter out hunting. My present wife has no problems with my gun stuff. She has bought me the odd gun and gone halves with me when I buy a few for resale. I don't normally have much to do with "anti gun" people, if I can help it. I have very little tolerance for people who are narrow-minded about such things. I am narrow-minded when it comes to private ownership of firearms. Period.
 
ratherbefishin said:
My wife once took bear sausage( very good!) to a ladies prayer breakfast but never said a word...after she left,her friend whose husband was also an avid hunter told the group' you know of course that sausage you raved about was bear sausage' ...so I think one way to deal with anti hunters is to first feed them some excellent game meat-THEN tell them what it was..a lot of people have simply never had well prepared game...another tactic I use us to tell people that with the increasing prevalence of stomach and colon cancers ,one way to protect yourself us to eat 'natural' meat that comes from animals that have never been fed growth hormones...something the anti hunting group has probably never thought about..

I catered my daughter's wedding and served both smoked bear and bear pepperoni...sme people who said they would 'not eat bear' said 'that was the best pepperoni they had ever had..
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ratherbefishin said:
All we have to keep in mind when dealing with anti hunters is we want to win the war,not the argument,and a lot of people simply haven't been exposed to first class nutritionally good well prepared meat-which is an integral part of the hunt-providing for our families.Apart from vermin,I only shoot what I eat and I eat what I shoot.
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time4t said:
,,,, have converted a few antis over the years,no hormones, clean meat, go factory direct for the groceries,,,,
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Yep, especially a nice fat spring bear!

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Roasts, chops, ribs, burger, and bacon. Come on Spring!

In the meantime, we'll hunt bison.
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My mom wasn't an anti hunter or shooter by any means, but she wasn't keen on it either.

When I was 18 I went to the police station applied for an FAC. They told me they would call me when it's ready. The next day I was in bed when my mom came to my broom and said "The police called, they said your FAC is ready! Do you know what that is??" I said yes, it's my gun license.

She snorted 'OH YOU ARE JUST LIKE YOUR FATHER!!"

Never had a better compliment in my life! :)
 
I've lived in many different circles, not all approve of hunting and guns. I will try to explain to them and most are receptive, but when some go off on my I just laugh these days. I'll give them facts though, while laughing at them, and make them feel foolish. I used to try to sugar coat things, but that stopped years ago.

'You just ate a chicken dinner and condemn me for eating moose? You are a hypocrite."

"You have a fast car that you don't need but question my need for an AR15?" You are a hypocrite.
 
Gatehouse said:
My mom wasn't an anti hunter or shooter by any means, but she wasn't keen on it either.

When I was 18 I went to the police station applied for an FAC. They told me they would call me when it's ready. The next day I was in bed when my mom came to my broom and said "The police called, they said your FAC is ready! Do you know what that is??" I said yes, it's my gun license.

She snorted 'OH YOU ARE JUST LIKE YOUR FATHER!!"

Never had a better compliment in my life! :)
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that is very good ... got when the same when i got my first firearm license from my mom ...
 
My BIL is what I'd call a hardcore liberal, def an anti with respect to guns but I think in the last few yrs he's come to realize that I wont back down when he starts the "nobody needs a gun in the city..." bs. The wife's aunt and uncle were a little more anti hunter than anti hunting and from some of their actual experiences I can see why, they both have their pal. The last couple years of contact with me and my wife and especially my enthusiasm towards firearms and shooting or hunting have opened their minds a bit on the subject, enough so that they just took and passed their CORE course ;) They watched our success the last two years with hunting, we shared game meat with them and I've been whispering in their ear about how much enjoyment I've gotten out of being in the bush hunting. They just needed the push to head down that path, the next agenda I have with them is getting them to the range for some trigger time and get them into shooting pistols. I'll make gun nuts out of them eventually muhahaha!!!

Everyone we had over for Christmas Day dinner couldn't stop talking about the delicious venison steaks I bbq'd up and how tender they were, they all appreciate good healthy food so I feel they are coming to see hunting and shooting in a different light. My BIL included, he kinda had that oh I get it a bit more when I explained one of the reasons I target shoot or shoot in general was to make sure I'm comfortable with my guns and can make a clean kill while hunting. I don't thing he considered that, his preconceived notions of why people would want to own firearms were pretty out to lunch.
 
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I must be somewhat lucky (country boy ) all have ever got was be careful with that thing and what you got to be shooting so many bullets for ? ( guess they think I miss alot LOL!!) They haven't realized that there are different guns and calibers .
 
When I'm confronted on the subject (even though I'm not a hunter), I point out the hypocrisy of shoveling meat into your mouth while excoriating the people that harvest it themselves.
My favorite counter is basically: "The only difference between you and a hunter, is that they accept responsibility for the kill. They don't hire 'Hit-men' to do their dirty work for them."
 
Far North said:
Too many people are disconnected from where their food comes from. They think their burgers magically appear in cardboard containers. Meanwhile that plate of venison probably had a better life and was dispatched more humanely then the cow that is in the burger.
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PETA videos are a good tool to bring around the realization that ALL meat eaters support the killing of animals.

Some of us simply choose to let the animals live as nature intended and then dispatch them as humanely as possible.

Any meat-eating anti-hunter will STFU really quickly once they have come to this realization. There is simply no rebuttal possible.

Vegans and vegetarians will be harder to convince, of course. However simply point out to them that you hunt for many of the same ethical reasons why they don't eat meat. Maybe you can't be best friends with them, and maybe they will still disagree, but they will respect you more than they respect the masses of industrial meat-eaters.
 
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ironsighter said:
Vegans and vegetarians will be harder to convince, of course. However simply point out to them that you hunt for many of the same ethical reasons why they don't eat meat. Maybe you can't be best friends with them, and maybe they will still disagree, but they will respect you more than they do the masses of industrial meat-eaters.
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This is true of most of the city vegans I've come across, I do however know a few ex vegans living rural nearby who finally came to the conclusion that half of the food that they needed to sustain their vegan diet came from the other side of the world and had a considerable environmental in getting it to their hands. They decided eating locally even if it meant raising their own meat or hunting was a better alternative to being vegan. So there is hope for some of them seeing the light. They don't eat a ton of meat but when they do it's from friends that hunt or meat they've raised on their own homestead.
 
Butcherbill said:
This is true of most of the city vegans I've come across, I do however know a few ex vegans living rural nearby who finally came to the conclusion that half of the food that they needed to sustain their vegan diet came from the other side of the world and had a considerable environmental in getting it to their hands. They decided eating locally even if it meant raising their own meat or hunting was a better alternative to being vegan. So there is hope for some of them seeing the light. They don't eat a ton of meat but when they do it's from friends that hunt or meat they've raised on their own homestead.
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Good for them! I love to hear stories like this!

My family and I also do not eat a "ton" of meat. Too much meat is not healthy, just like too much of anything. I mean, we eat meat daily, but we eat about 1/2 as much as we used to years ago. When the quality is so high, the quantity doesn't matter so much (to us). And there's more room on the plate for all the other things that are essential to good health.

I'm seriously considering taking advantage of the new Kamloops bylaw, and get myself a coop and some laying hens. The one thing we still buy and eat every day is eggs. Lots of them.
 
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