antimony

My intention was to mix 9 pounds of wheel weights, 13 oz of antimony and 4 oz of tin.

All i have is a ton of wheel weights and i want to shoot my 30-30 with a suitable alloy, i was thinking around 18 bhn.

Solution ???
 
taken from: From Ingot to Target:
A Cast Bullet Guide for Handgunners


Heat treating and water quenching - This age hardening of antimony containing alloys can be accelerated at higher temperatures, i.e. heat treating the bullets. This is most commonly done by sizing the bullets first (since lead alloys work soften, and hence sizing would negate a significant portion of the hardness imparted by the heat treating process) then heating them to about 450o F in the oven and quenching by dumping them in cold water. The hardened bullets are then lubed using the same sizing die that was used before (so that no actual sizing takes place). Done in this manner, bullets cast with an alloy containing 5% antimony, 0.5% tin and 0.17% arsenic, which would normally have a Brinell hardness of a little over 16 (after aging for 6 days), can be hardened to a BHN of over 35 (see Dennis Marshall‘s chapter “Stronger Bullets with Less Alloying“ in “Cast Bullets” published by the NRA). Notice that this alloy is not tremendously different from the common wheelweight. Much the same sort of result can be obtained by casting with a hot mould and water quenching directly from the mould (place a towel over the water bucket with a 4” slot cut in it to contain the splashes). Mould temperature is critical for maximum effective hardness. Bullets water quenched from a “cool” mould (i.e. one from which the bullets were smooth and shiny) were found to be similar to air-cooled bullets. But bullets dropped from a mould that was “hot” (i.e. hot enough that the bullets were frosty over their entire surface) were found to have BHN of over 30 when water quenched. In a separate study, such a mould was found to have temperature of 430o F, very similar to the optimum oven temperature found in the heat treatment study (ca. 450o F). I don’t normally cast quite this hot, but even so, water-quenching WW alloy routinely gives me bullets with a Brinell hardness of 18. One of the advantages of hardening bullets in this manner, as opposed to using linotype to make them hard, is that they are tougher and not as likely to shear or fragment on impact.
 
Thank you so much for these precious information, i do quench my 310 grains bullet in 44 mag, i also use a gas check, i will give it a try and use a gas check on the 30-30.

As for tin, it is easy to find around here the scap yard i go to sells 50/50 at a reasonnable price.
 
My intention was to mix 9 pounds of wheel weights, 13 oz of antimony and 4 oz of tin.

All i have is a ton of wheel weights and i want to shoot my 30-30 with a suitable alloy, i was thinking around 18 bhn.

Solution ???

Wheel weights have more than enough antimony to make them hard.
You will want to add about 1/2 oz to 1 oz oz of tin to 10 lb of wheel weight mix to get them to fill a mold
nicely
 
For simple hard bullets, I like 50:1 wheel weights and tin water dropped from the mold. For not quite that hard, air cooled. For soft, 18:1 lead and tin. And for what it's worth, I can achieve nearly factory velocity and good expansion with the soft alloy. Probably you need to try all three as many rifles show a marked preference in accuracy. The benefits of hard cast are often wildly exaggerated.
Grouch
 
If it needs to be harder than can be made from Wheelweight, I'd either use or add Linotype.

If you can't find Linotype, these guys www.purityalloys.com sell Pewter and Babbit alloy which is high in Antimony. They are based in British-Columbia and at one time had free shipping. The minimum order was 25 pounds as I recall.
 
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Are you hunting with these boolits, or are you target shooting?

I get away with straight wheelweights for my hunting loads, but I don't feel the need to push the full velocity envelope, either.

On the Castboolits site, I think Larry Gibson shoots 50/50 wheelweight/pure lead mix. His attitude is if he doesn't kill a deer with 10 shots, he might as well go home and clean his gun...

If you want to try the linotype thing, pm me. I've got a garbage can full in my storage shed. I can send you a few pounds to try.

(What's the going rate for linotype so I don't screw over the OP?)
 
I have Ballard rifled Marlin 336 in 35 Rem with 2x scout scope.
My recipie is 3lbs of clip on w-w +1lb of linotype + 2oz of 50/50 solder.
All together the alloy has about 92% lead, 5% antimony, 3% tin and 15-17 BHN.
It's a little "cheaper" alloy than famous Lyman #2 one with 5% Antimony and 5% tin.
Perfect for me b/c bullets are not to soft and not to brittle and expand in deer just right.
I shoot 190gr RD bullets with Hornady GC at 2000fps with no leading and great accuracy.
 
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