Antique 24ga. shotgun?

[Pete04]

Anyone have/had one?

Model/Maker?

Action types (break, pump, etc.) availiable?

Same questions for any other Antique shotguns (14ga, 18ga., etc.) not on the no-go list?

 

[antiqueguy]

the only breech loading shotguns are pinfire unless its a 14ga,24ga,32ga

none are easy to find one in those gauges and you also have to make sure its made before 1898 (H&R made 24ga and 32ga single shot shotguns untill the 30's maybe later)

it would be easier to have a pre 1898 shotgun relined and rechambered to one of those gauges

 

[smellie]

Had a nice little Belgian hammer 24 double gun many years ago, pre-1893 proof marks, too, so it was a genu-wine anti-quee.

They are out there, often lying neglected in the dust because everybody knows there is no ammo.

Wish I still had that one; it was a little beauty.

Without a nice, light little gun, I'm gonna have to use my cannon: double 11-bore W&C Scott, built in the 1870s. Nice toy but just a bit heavyish.....
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[mbogo3]

I have seen both 24 +32 ga modern ammo at gun shows.European made .......Harold

 

[antiqueguy]

I have seen both 24 +32 ga modern ammo at gun shows.European made .......Harold

yep its made in small runs now the 24 and 32 ga's are easier to get hulls for both plastic and brass

theres two types of 14ga the straight sided 14ga then there is the 12/14 greener witch was made for greener police shotguns witch are not pre 1898 even through they are on what seems like a martini receiver. both types are hard to get hulls for and only one company puts them out rocky mountain cartridge

 

[Pete04]

Sounds like a nice gun smellie. Maybe it will come around again for ya'.
Cart. of the World has;

8ga. (wide spread) in late 1800s Bore dia. 0.835" length 3", 3.25" and 4" (also availiably in pin fire)

11ga. (very limited) late 1800s bore dia. 0.751" length 2.5"

14ga. (wide spread) 1880-1900s bore dia.0.693" length 2", 2.5"

15 ga. (very limited) Win 1877 catalog listed brass shells bore dia. 0.677"

18ga. (limited) corresponds with 64 Maynard (limited) Model 1865, '73, '82 bore dia. 0.637 length 2 & 7/16th"

24ga. (wide spread) made into the 1930s (not sure when introduced) bore dia. 0.580" length 2", 2.5"

55 Maynard (limited) introduced 1865, '73, '82 corresponds with 28ga. bore dia.0.550" length 2 & 5/16"

32ga. (wide spread) intoduced in Win Model 1886 rifle and offered well into the 1930s bore dia.0.526" length 2.5" also offered 158gr round ball or 1/2 once and 5/8 once #6 and #8 shot

Then they have a whole whack of European gauges.

 

[smellie]

24 and 32 both are made by Fiocchi in Italy, using composite metal/plastic cases (just like regular shells) and the same primers as we buy here.

Both also are made in Brazil by Magtech, but in 2-1/2" length, in brass, using Large Pistol primers.

Last gun show I was at, Will Bilozir had both in stock. If you don't mind dealing with all the paperwork, Graf's has them also.

But nobody makes 11-bore, so I bought a lathe. Next stage: smelt down some of these thousands of Berdan-primed 7.62 NATO empties I have which people have thrown away......
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24 is really good to have on hand because it can be formed into .577 Snider quite easily. A bit more work gives you the old Martini-Henry case.

As for 32, it makes into a wild variety of old-timers, including the Dutch Beaumont round, .50-110 Express and a bunch of others.

That should be enough to keep the stuff hard-to-get for another few years!
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[antiqueguy]

24 and 32 both are made by Fiocchi in Italy, using composite metal/plastic cases (just like regular shells) and the same primers as we buy here.

Both also are made in Brazil by Magtech, but in 2-1/2" length, in brass, using Large Pistol primers.

Last gun show I was at, Will Bilozir had both in stock. If you don't mind dealing with all the paperwork, Graf's has them also.

But nobody makes 11-bore, so I bought a lathe. Next stage: smelt down some of these thousands of Berdan-primed 7.62 NATO empties I have which people have thrown away......
.

24 is really good to have on hand because it can be formed into .577 Snider quite easily. A bit more work gives you the old Martini-Henry case.

As for 32, it makes into a wild variety of old-timers, including the Dutch Beaumont round, .50-110 Express and a bunch of others.

That should be enough to keep the stuff hard-to-get for another few years!
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the plastic hulls are 2 1/2" too as this is the common size for both 24 and 32

have fun smelting down them cases lets say i keep all my brass cased stuff for a reason even .22lr