Antique Ammo problems (reload your own) See PIC

[dingus]

OK someone who i wont name on the open forum is selling reduced loaded ammo for antique handguns.
its a cgn buiness member who offeres the service and up untill recently theres been o problems BUT.
This is the second gun with a buggered barrel see that buldge right up near the muzzel ?
Thats what ammo that is not reloaded carefully does. a underloaded round didnt make it outa the gun the shooter never noticed and then the next 700 FPS 45 bullet hit the stuck round and blew the site right off the barrel wrecking a really nice SAA colt.

This is not the only case.
The seller of said ammo would not do anything about it im not sure they have to either so check after each shot fired.
I never use anyones reloaded ammo in my guns.
Under loaded cartridges can cause as many problems as over loaded cartridges.
even factory fiochhi has had underloaded 8mm lebal ammo.

You should check every round has cleared the barrel if your buying ammo sold as reloaded reduced for antiques. Better still reload your own.
I just hope more guns dont have this happen to them. ammo sold as 700 FPS ammo should never get stuck in a barrel like this, this was a faulty round caused this.


$this happened to a very nice SAA colt.

 

[bobbynewmark]

is it not illegal for someone to sell reloaded ammo without a licence ??

 

[RedApe]

is it not illegal for someone to sell reloaded ammo without a licence ??

you got it. It is also against the EE rules to sell reloaded ammo when you don't have a manufacturers licence. Where is the ban hammer?

 

[AHiltz]

You get what you pay for. When that item is illegal it's really stupid to cry about it on a public forum

 

[mkrnel]

You get what you pay for. When that item is illegal it's really stupid to cry about it on a public forum

From how I read the OP it was not Dingus who bought the reloaded ammo and shot it, probably was one of his customers!

He seems to be only trying to warn others!

 

[dingus]

Its a cgn business selling the ammo not just some guy.
thats why i brought it up.

 

[lyman54]

Antique or not, I would not use reloads that I didn't make myself. Learned that years ago. Lucky for me nothing bad happened except for the bullet going about 10 feet and hitting the ground.

 

[starpuss]

Poor Colt SAA

Owner going to Cut the barrel down or get a replacement?

 

[bollox]

You get what you pay for. When that item is illegal it's really stupid to cry about it on a public forum

Really? Ffs..

 

[dingus]

Needs a new barrel frame should be OK tho.
No matter who or where if you do not reload your own ammo and have bought reduced antique loads from some business always check each round has cleared the barrel.
The Business in question is not going to help this person and im not sure on the legal aspect of selling reloaded ammo maby there is no recourse to the shooter i dont know.
Thats the only reason i posted this so no one else hurts there guns assumeing because a business sells the ammo that that makes everything AOK. if you do buy reloaded reduced loads then you do so at risk of this happening again.
Reload your own.

I have seen Fiochhi 8mm Lebal ammo do this as well theres a post about that somewhere.
So even some factory ammos can be underloaded.
So just be carefull as long as you check after each shot and if a bullet dont make it out get it removed.
Im not sure how you can remove a stuck bullet in a SAA colt other than drift it backwards.
But just be carefull people hopefully its just a bad batch, but this is why i reload all my own ammos.

 

[CMichaud]

I will buy reloads but use it as components only ie the brass and bullets if salvageable.

 

[667]

Well...
Having a squib is one thing, but launching a round behind it?
'Sorry.... That's operator error.

 

[dingus]

I will buy reloads but use it as components only ie the brass and bullets if salvageable.

Yes thats smart i do that to .
I have a good bullet puller and have bought trays of 45 acp ammo at gun shows cheep and reloaded it all with lead bullets and unique smokeless.
reloading is easy but i buy some ammo thats FACTORY reloaded for my guns that can handle it like that wolf ammo sold on CGN but outa over 1000 rds ive never had one stick in a barrel.
Yet some here have had problems with Fiochhi 8 mm lebal sticking in barrels so it really pays to reload your own or check your barrels if you think you got a dud load.

 

[dingus]

as to Operator Error ,,, to some degree thats right but not all squibs are noticed with lighter loaded cartridge rounds.
elmer keith has had this happen to him and he knows his stuff it can happen to anyone really.
The point is you have to check each round has left the barrel when useing ammo like this that you didnt reload yourself im carefull even with my own reloads.
in the case of this SAA colt outa 12 rds two were underloaded.
The rest of the boxes are being tested by a gunsmith just to see. hopefully it was just bad luck we will see might be a month or two before we get results so people just be carefull is all.

 

[The Kurgan]

roll your own folks.
big fan of taking my time and triple checking everything that I do.

 

[skneub]

Good heads up man

 

[THX1139]

I've had a few FTF but never a squib. This is a good reminder to check your barrel.
Thanks Dingus.

 

[Suther]

as to Operator Error ,,, to some degree thats right but not all squibs are noticed with lighter loaded cartridge rounds.
elmer keith has had this happen to him and he knows his stuff it can happen to anyone really.

Wtf does the fact someone else had done it have to do with it?

I agree with it being operator error.

If it was his reload and he didn't notice it squibbed, then he shot another, would it THEN be operator error? Exact same scenario in place - shooter pulled trigger. Round didn't leave the barrel. Shooter shot another round. Only difference would be who loaded it.

At the end of the day it's not the reloader who didn't clear the squib...

 

[TrueNorthArms]

That's a shame that nice firearm is damaged . Thanks for the reminder to check .

 

[41 Colt]

At the end of the day it's not the reloader who didn't clear the squib...

But it's the reloader who MADE the squib and is doing NOTHING about it. I would like to know who is making and selling the ammo.