You have absolutely no clue!! My Gold 10 with a 1 3/4 oz load of steel 1's made my buddies 3.5 12's look like they were sucking buttermilk. I only once ever shot geese in tight over the decoys an absolutely destroyed the first bird I fired at at 20 yards. After that for a decade of hunting geese with that group I let them empty their guns first and then I picked off birds booking it out past the edge of the decoys. Most of my shooting was 40-70 yards and that big gun simply folded them the way a pheasant goes down in a cloud of feathers over a dog. I shot thousands of geese with it and I didn't have to leave the layout blind to chase many wounded birds. I sold the gun, actually I have had two of them and sold both, both being first generation Golds, and don't regret it as I rarely hunt waterfowl the past few seasons but the mighty ten is king of all the land when it comes to a goose gun. My only regret is all those years in Ontario and I never took it turkey hunting. It would be one mean jelly necker with a 2 1/4 oz payload of copper plated 6's and a full choke!!