Any advice for getting permission from land owners? UPDATED

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I would like to do some coyote hunting this fall and have been doing some scouting. I found a couple of places that look promising. Wondering if anyone has any advice on how to approach land owners to get permission to hunt? I plan on hunting alone using an electronic caller. Thanks!

Sept 15/15 Update:

Just thought I would share some of my experience for those just starting out, for what it is worth. I am a long time shooter that has been away from any serious hunting for a while, and never really had to "cold call" for hunting spots. I am taking up coyote hunting this winter and realize that having multiple locations will be beneficial.

Armed with much of the advice received here, I used a free topographical map app and identified areas I wanted to inquire about. I made a list in my phone and headed out. I drove sensibly in the lane and tried to park out of the way. I haven't encountered any aggressive dogs yet but I checked them out before hopping out of the truck, and spent a minute with them if they were friendly, which all have been. Farmers seem to appreciate it when you are nice to their pets, and I like dogs anyway, which also helped as an ice breaker in a couple of instances.

When making inquiries, I have been brief and to the point once pleasantries have been exchanged. I apologize for the interruption, introduce myself and ask who I should talk to about coyote hunting. I Iet them know I am from the area, and mention other nearby farms that I will be hunting on which seems to help. I explain that I will be hunting by myself and likely drop by every couple of weeks for around an hour, and will still hunt using an electronic call, in order to give them an idea of what I'll be doing. I offered my contact information (only one farmer has wanted it, to call me if he sees anything :) ). I made sure to record everyone's name, told them what vehicle I would be driving, asked where it would be best to park, asked about livestock locations, property boundaries, and asked if they wanted me to let them know when I was coming.

I think that being organized and thorough with my approach was key to my success, proof being that when I offered the same explanation to those that declined, I could see a change in attitude, even to the point that they were apologetic! My response was always "no problem, I have lots of places to hunt. Do you mind if I check back later in the year?" I have about a dozen spots so far (7 total cold calls) with three refusals. Of those that refused, all three said they already had enough hunters on the land, one said to check back later on (which gave me the idea to ask the other two), and seemed on the verge of changing his mind at the time. Before I started, I was a little aprehensive about being refused, but it was no big deal at all, and I did not feel it was anything personal.

What did surprise me was how friendly people were! I had several nice "visits", and got a lot of useful intel from the land owners. They have let me know where I can drive on the land for faster access, where / when coyotes have been spotted, and have told me who owns adjoining land, and what they are like. I actually kind of enjoy the experience now, which is interesting, since I was dreading it before I started.

I still have about 6 places on my list, and I keep looking / adding all the time. Depending on how things go I have two goals in mind, one: to harvest at least one coyote from each location, and two: to harvest at least one coyote with each of my .222, .243, and 25/06 rifles. Might as well dream big! :)
 
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Polite, no camouflage, not on Sunday. Around K-W you'll likely be dealing with Mennonites. Don't know if that makes any difference other than absolutely do not go on Sunday. Otherwise just knock on doors.
You want to hunt Wiley in winter. Preferably a cold winter if you're looking at keeping the hides. Thicker fur. Look into the legality of electronic calls too.
 
I show up in person to ask for permission. Not as impersonal as asking over the phone and then the landowner guessing what the face is to the name.

Afterwards, I usually buy a small gift card or the like to the landowner to show thanks.
 
Just dont show up looking like a slob(4 days unshaven and greasy hair) and be polite. I always treat it like a job interview in retail. You are selling yourself. I rarely show up in hunting clothes unless I am out hunting that day and still appear presentable (not covered in blood, guts and mud) and I don't drive in the laneway 50 mph. I also like to have a map in hand to establish property ownership, boundaries, no go or areas holding livestock and I always ask what kind of crops are planted and which areas I may or may not access with a vehicle.
 
Just dont show up looking like a slob(4 days unshaven and greasy hair) and be polite. I always treat it like a job interview in retail. You are selling yourself. I rarely show up in hunting clothes unless I am out hunting that day and still appear presentable (not covered in blood, guts and mud) and I don't drive in the laneway 50 mph. I also like to have a map in hand to establish property ownership, boundaries, no go or areas holding livestock and I always ask what kind of crops are planted and which areas I may or may not access with a vehicle.

perfect advice
get yourself a RM map of the area first to find out who actually owns the land.
then go knocking on their door.go on your own.dont go taking all your mates with you.

please and thank you goes a long way.

dont be put off when a landowner says no,keep at it and you will get permission.
even if the land is posted no hunting still go and ask,as you are not after game.
 
Shave your head and wear a cancer survivor T-shirt. Even better if you can get your wife to shave her's and hang back while still staying in clear sight. Explain that if it were just you you wouldn't bother him, but she wanted to get a coyote before the inevitable end. It would help if you let your voice crack, and whisper "so brave' quietly. Its easier if you swallow a spoonful of dry dirt first. That oughta do it.
 
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet and something I do is that I bring proof of my insurance which I have through my BCWF membership. Goes to show the landowner that you are interested in hunting legally and responsibly, as well as belonging to a conservation organization.
 
Shave your head and wear a cancer survivor T-shirt. Even better if you can get your wife to shave her's and hang back while still staying in clear sight. Explain that if it were just you you wouldn't bother him, but she wanted to get a coyote before the inevitable end. It would help if you let your voice crack, and whisper "so brave' quietly. Its easier if you swallow a spoonful of dry dirt first. That oughta do it.


Perfect but I would shave a kids head instead. Also, cut a few onions in the vehicle five minutes before you go to the door. And if you are in Alberta wear an NDP shirt.:d
 
Contact your local Ontario Landowners Association (OLA). I bet they could hook you up (especially if you picked up a magazine subscription ;) )
 
Great advice, thanks! My 20 year old "kid" just shaved his head for the summer, but I think he'd look a little too white supremacist for my purposes. Definitely lots of Mennonites in the area and no Sunday visits are a must.
 
Great advice, thanks! My 20 year old "kid" just shaved his head for the summer, but I think he'd look a little too white supremacist for my purposes. Definitely lots of Mennonites in the area and no Sunday visits are a must.


The white supremist look might work against you, its a calculated risk or one of natures cruel jokes, believe me I know. That's why its important to soften the image with the right theatrical props. A bald wife and a breast cancer shirt is safer unless your kids are younger.
 
The white supremist look might work against you, its a calculated risk or one of natures cruel jokes, believe me I know. That's why its important to soften the image with the right theatrical props. A bald wife and a breast cancer shirt is safer unless your kids are younger.

Yeah the kids are too old to use as props for sympathy. I'd love to know how you got into African Lion Safari!;)
 
Borrowing a kid might work. A friend has found that his teenage daughter not only opens doors, it practically rips them off their hinges. Of course he actually isn't running a scam, she is actually hunting while he drives, guides and finances the operation. Normal dad stuff.
 
Borrowing a kid might work. A friend has found that his teenage daughter not only opens doors, it practically rips them off their hinges. Of course he actually isn't running a scam, she is actually hunting while he drives, guides and finances the operation. Normal dad stuff.

My thought is, any subterfuge is gonna get you off to a bad start. Land owners aren't stupid. :confused:

Grizz
 
Hiring out to drive tractor, fix fences, milking cows, baling, branding and round-up are chores that I have done.
I have been driving tractor hauling corn silage since 1995.
One phone call created a lifelong friendship that has been a place to hunt gophers, groundhogs, grouse, deer, bear, coyotes and crows.
 
I've been trying to talk my wife into going around and asking for me and say that she is trying to get me places to hunt as a birthday or anniversary present. She's not showing much interest though LOL. And I'm not exactly a "gentle" looking fellow so not sure what my plan will be, I guess a long sleeve shirt and a clean ball hat will help a little bit, and I could show up in her truck instead of mine, maybe with her in the truck....
 
My thought is, any subterfuge is gonna get you off to a bad start. Land owners aren't stupid. :confused:

Grizz

There isn't any trick involved in saying you're looking for a place to take your kid hunting.

I'm a land owner (proof that they aren't all that smart) and I know what appeals to me when I let people on. Usually its just family, or close friends, or business contacts. Even then I can't let all of those on because there's only so many pieces you can slice a pie into and still be worth getting the plates dirty. I do have a weak spot for kids, having been one myself and having a few of my own.
 
Hiring out to drive tractor, fix fences, milking cows, baling, branding and round-up are chores that I have done.
I have been driving tractor hauling corn silage since 1995.
One phone call created a lifelong friendship that has been a place to hunt gophers, groundhogs, grouse, deer, bear, coyotes and crows.


That depends where you live. In Saskatchewan charging for hunting or paying/bartering in any form is illegal.
 
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