Any advice to be a better trap shooter

He means that even though the target may start out going dead straight away from you it will eventually leak a bit left or right. The rotation of the clay naturally takes it to the right but you could have a cross wind taking it left. It may not leak much but it won't be dead straight like you may think it is.

Does it mean that a lead is required for straight away?
 
Most clubs are welcoming and the members friendly and helpful. If you can find a suitable club within your reach you should find help and encouragement, that seems to be the norm at any club that I have shot at. Even if you can only go there once or twice a month you can still continue to use your public range. The club environment provides friendly helpful knowledgeable support and will probably transition you to club level competition. The club will usually have facilities for patterning and will have a higher percentage of shooters that are seriously trying to improve than where you are now. Stay focussed, be patient.

Ashcroft, thanks for your advice & kind words.
 
Not necessarily lead as such but the gun must move with the target and not stop, to stop the gun guarantee's a miss!

It may be my straight away problem. Now I can't wait until weekend to put into practice.
Thanks for your pointer, Master ! ;)
 
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My personal experience on the straightaways, where the move is mainly vertical, is reacting a little too quickly and shooting over top.

Try keeping in mind to make slow gentle moves with the target.

Sounds like you’re well on your way, if you want some coaching, I offer free instruction to anyone who wants it and is willing to learn.

Can offer instruction in any of the disciplines.
 
Practice with Purpose.
Concentrate on every bird.
Try and keep your mechanics identical shot to shot.

Not sure if you change your stance from station to station but you should (IMO)
As you go from 1 to 5 you should be turning your stance slightly R at each station
If you don't you will start having trouble with hard rights as you move across the stations
 
My personal experience on the straightaways, where the move is mainly vertical, is reacting a little too quickly and shooting over top.

Try keeping in mind to make slow gentle moves with the target.

Sounds like you’re well on your way, if you want some coaching, I offer free instruction to anyone who wants it and is willing to learn.

Can offer instruction in any of the disciplines.

Thanks for your offer. I will take a raincheck.
I'm going to practice what Falconflyer suggests in next couple week. If it is still the same, I'm definitely calling you. Thx
 
Practice with Purpose.
Concentrate on every bird.
Try and keep your mechanics identical shot to shot.

Not sure if you change your stance from station to station but you should (IMO)
As you go from 1 to 5 you should be turning your stance slightly R at each station
If you don't you will start having trouble with hard rights as you move across the stations

I change my stance slightly in every station. I learned from the book "trap shooting is a game of opposite". It is really good book. I learned a lot of basic techniques from that ie. Stance, gun hold, break pt., Wind direction etc. Highly recommend even though it is a very old book.
 
I really want to be a better trap shooter. I think I addict to trap, may be sporting clay in future ;)
Hiring a coach is not feasible at this time.
I have started seriously to shoot trap since November after getting my CG Syren.
I practice every Saturday & Sunday whenever I can. I shoot ard 250 each weekend. I read trap shooting books & watched the YouTube abt how to shoot trap.
My average score now is 23/25. It seems to stuck at 23. (I used to shoot average 9 only :)
I know here has a lot of good shooters.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

I have a launcher in the backyard of my farm to practice straightaway shots. some serious people have their own equipment for practicing. ask around. You might be surprised to find someone in your area that would be willing to help you and setup for straights and straights w curl for you.
 
I'm very proud of my fellow trap shooters, Celine, you have been getting copious amounts of very good, very detailed, very useful information on here. This conforms with my own experiences with trap shooters over the years, most are friendly, knowledgeable and helpful and even though none of us can do as much second hand from across the country as we could in person, we have all been through your problems and can contribute help. You will succeed.
 
You should come out to Oshawa Skeet - it's a friendly club that allows walk-ins and the members are more than willing to offer advice (some good and some not so good). Averaging 23's, others would be coming to you for advice ! I've used everything from camo semi's to 20 g sxs on the trap line along side DT11's and Krieghoff's and have never been sneered at - though maybe some friendly chuckles for a low score (for me).
It has a sporting course (open only weekends for the winter) that usually has a station with a straight away setup that you could practice on to your hearts content. Another option is skeet low house 7 - just let it get out a little bit and it's almost a trap straight away - you can shoot all 25 shells there if you like.
My 2 cents on missing #3 straight away, as someone already mentioned, is going over the top. What is forgotten is that the clay is actually slowing down and leveling off as it reaches its peak. On a straight away it's harder to see this and fools you into thinking it's still rising so depending on gun speed and timing it's easy to go over the clay - my usual mistake.
Unless you're set on trap you should try the other disciplines. You're shooting well enough that you'd enjoy sporting clays - just have fun.
 
Celine; As someone else already mentioned, at 92% please compete. My average is normally in the low 80's. Do I win my class when I compete? Occasionally. Do I care? Not one bit. Competing does 2 things, 1. It gets you out of that comfort zone where a missed target doesn't really matter, forcing you to compete with yourself, and 2. this is the important one, it allows you meet others who share the passion of what you enjoy doing. I'm competing this Saturday(50 singles, 50 double wobble at the PSC) and next Saturday 100 Sporting Clays(Nova Sporting). Will I win, most likely not, but I will have fun. Some shoots have interesting aspects to them, the shoot on Saturday for instance will start with a nice breakfast and get together, then followed by 50 single wobble targets then 50 double wobble. The entrance fee is reasonable, and the Petticodiac Sportsmans Club has a pretty good group of members. Next Saturday, I'm off to Nova Sporting clays near Shubenacadie(about a 2.5hr run) for 100 sporting clays. Nova Sporting is a fairly new club, they have a 13 station course, not a great deal of property to work with, however they make the most of it. They don't move the machines around much, but each station has 2 or 3 shooting stands, so to vary the presentations, they will switch around which stands you'll shoot from and change the target types and trajectories to keep thigs interesting. They also have my favorite rabbit presentation in the Maritimes, the rabbit station is a true pair with one target setup several feet above the other with ramp built in, with this station, you're either on your game or hear lost a pair more than you want to. Lunch will be included, not sure what Saturdays menu is but has been Pheasant Stew and sweets at previous tournaments. Worth every penny and the time to go. I highly encourage you to compete, and not just at trap, take in a skeet or sporting clays for the fun of it, each game brings it's own uniqueness.
 
I'm very proud of my fellow trap shooters, Celine, you have been getting copious amounts of very good, very detailed, very useful information on here. This conforms with my own experiences with trap shooters over the years, most are friendly, knowledgeable and helpful and even though none of us can do as much second hand from across the country as we could in person, we have all been through your problems and can contribute help. You will succeed.

I agree. I love this community. I got my PAL last year May. I met so many ppl in the range or in here. 99.5% of them are very nice. They are so helpful. I feel that I can ask anything and I have learnt so much from every one of my fellow shooters.
 
You should come out to Oshawa Skeet - it's a friendly club that allows walk-ins and the members are more than willing to offer advice (some good and some not so good). Averaging 23's, others would be coming to you for advice ! I've used everything from camo semi's to 20 g sxs on the trap line along side DT11's and Krieghoff's and have never been sneered at - though maybe some friendly chuckles for a low score (for me).
It has a sporting course (open only weekends for the winter) that usually has a station with a straight away setup that you could practice on to your hearts content. Another option is skeet low house 7 - just let it get out a little bit and it's almost a trap straight away - you can shoot all 25 shells there if you like.
My 2 cents on missing #3 straight away, as someone already mentioned, is going over the top. What is forgotten is that the clay is actually slowing down and leveling off as it reaches its peak. On a straight away it's harder to see this and fools you into thinking it's still rising so depending on gun speed and timing it's easy to go over the clay - my usual mistake.
Unless you're set on trap you should try the other disciplines. You're shooting well enough that you'd enjoy sporting clays - just have fun.

I think I'm going to give the Oshawa skeet club a try. Do they take new member?
I never try other clay sports except trap. I need to do some more research on skeet.
 
Celine; As someone else already mentioned, at 92% please compete. My average is normally in the low 80's. Do I win my class when I compete? Occasionally. Do I care? Not one bit. Competing does 2 things, 1. It gets you out of that comfort zone where a missed target doesn't really matter, forcing you to compete with yourself, and 2. this is the important one, it allows you meet others who share the passion of what you enjoy doing. I'm competing this Saturday(50 singles, 50 double wobble at the PSC) and next Saturday 100 Sporting Clays(Nova Sporting). Will I win, most likely not, but I will have fun. Some shoots have interesting aspects to them, the shoot on Saturday for instance will start with a nice breakfast and get together, then followed by 50 single wobble targets then 50 double wobble. The entrance fee is reasonable, and the Petticodiac Sportsmans Club has a pretty good group of members. Next Saturday, I'm off to Nova Sporting clays near Shubenacadie(about a 2.5hr run) for 100 sporting clays. Nova Sporting is a fairly new club, they have a 13 station course, not a great deal of property to work with, however they make the most of it. They don't move the machines around much, but each station has 2 or 3 shooting stands, so to vary the presentations, they will switch around which stands you'll shoot from and change the target types and trajectories to keep thigs interesting. They also have my favorite rabbit presentation in the Maritimes, the rabbit station is a true pair with one target setup several feet above the other with ramp built in, with this station, you're either on your game or hear lost a pair more than you want to. Lunch will be included, not sure what Saturdays menu is but has been Pheasant Stew and sweets at previous tournaments. Worth every penny and the time to go. I highly encourage you to compete, and not just at trap, take in a skeet or sporting clays for the fun of it, each game brings it's own uniqueness.

I'm interested to go to your competition. Im more into all your yummy food lol
I wish it is closer to where I live. I think it will be a long long long drive.
I don't know what is wobble. I don't think I ever see it before. It must be fun.
I tried once double trap. I got some I missed some.
 
Don’t think it was mentioned but.

Swing a shotgun with your core not your arms.

This helps greatly when shooting at targets that pull the stock away from your face.

Pretend you are a gun turret.
 
Unfortunately Oshawa just closed off memberships for this year. There's 3 "trap" fields - one regular, one doubles and one wobble - that you can try. The skeet fields are self operating - you can join a squad or find a partner but you don't have to shoot a "normal" round if you don't want to. It's usually not that busy where you can't get a field to practice (depending on time and day). I usually use skeet for practice - the clay flight is always the same and the leads are known. The first few times can be intimidating - the clays move faster than trap and can be very close to you e.g. station 8 - but it soon becomes second nature. There's a very good series of youtube videos from Shotkam that demonstrate how all the stations of skeet are shot. Maybe we'll see you out there one day.
 
Going by the amount of shooting you are doing it is maybe time to progress to shooting registered competition.
We all started in the same place, worried that we would embarrass ourselves and found that there were other shooters in the same place in their shooting careers, all scared to death and loving it.
My experience with ATA shooting is that it is a very welcoming community.
You will be exposed to some top notch shooters but..... you will be shooting against others in your class, shooting at different clubs and backgrounds and different people every day.
Watch the good shooters, there is a lot to learn about pre shot routine ,stance , gunpoint, consistency .
Watch the ordinary shooters, try to understand why they miss or not, where they go wrong.
Find a mentor if you don't have a coach, some one who has shot a while and has been down this road before.
Remember all the advice you get might not be good advice, consider the source.
Become a student of the game, the game rewards good study and work habits.
And when you get there pass it on, the new people need your help and advice, give it back to the sport.
I am at the point now where teaching new people is as much fun as shooting myself.
I don't regret this journey a bit.
Have FUN!
Jim
 
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