Any Anschutz Experts out there?

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I was wondering if anyone here could answer a few questions for me. Im looking into starting some precision 22lr shooting at 50m olympic style. Im looking into picking up one of those Anschutz 22lr olympic style rifles in the future. Right now im using some russian target rifle my dad purchased a few years back.

What are the differences is in between lower and higher end models other than the ergo aluminium stock?

I was looking at the features of the 1903, 1907, 1913 models and all of them come with a similar 2 stage match trigger, 64/54 match actions, adjustments all over the place etc...

Is the jump from 1903->1907->1913 justifyable in terms of cost?

And is it true the 54 action is the "the shiet"?

Theres also a 2000 series now too right?

I guess what im trying to say is, i want to get a rifle that is a keeper.. i dont want to upgrade in the future especially since its very $$$. Are there also accessories i should look into picking up for enhancing performance (sights etc)?

This might not be the section to ask.. but ill try here first.
 
Is Peter a marksman?

Most people would rather have an user's input than anything a salesman says.



Which models come with the 54 action?
 
Is Peter a marksman?

Most people would rather have an user's input than anything a salesman says.



Which models come with the 54 action?
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Being a marksman does not mean that you would know all of the model to model variations, options, costs of each, etc. And not all salesmen are the same, some are very familiar with the products that they sell. I have three Anschutz rifles built on the 54 action, including two competition models and I personally would not bother with a 64 action, but I am not familiar with all of the various model to model variations, so I won't even attempt to go there.
 
You may want to contact a disciplined rifle shooting group,if you haven't already. Coaches and other shooters can provide a wealth of information and advice from equipment to training methods. Be prepared for a long haul.
Various shooting associations also have junior shooter development programs and advertise used equipment(typically in very good condition).
Having state-of-the-art equipment is very nice - but there have been some tremendous performances by capable shooters with lesser gear and many a lacklustre performance with topflight kit.
 
Steer clear of the 64 action. It's simply not as accurate. The 1907 has a thinner and shorter barrel than the 1913. The 2000 series has a square receiver, as opposed to round. Both the 1907 and 1913 actions are wonderful and likely the best sellers. You can pretty much drop them in any stock you like, wood or aluminum. Anschutz just made their very last run of 1907's as repeaters. They are match rifles with a magazine, the perfect rifle in my opinion. Stock is fantastic. Lock time on the 54 action is much faster than on the 64, receivers are better quality bolt is more robust, it's just a much better rifle. The 1913 can get heavy, if you are a big guy and don't mind it may give a very very slight edge in accuracy.

You don't live too far from me if you want to give a few annies and a suhl a try let me know.

Walther makes a beautiful rifle that may in fact be better than anschutz, only trouble is support doesn't come close to anschutz support. Kk300
 
dryfire said:
You may want to contact a disciplined rifle shooting group,if you haven't already. Coaches and other shooters can provide a wealth of information and advice from equipment to training methods. Be prepared for a long haul.
Various shooting associations also have junior shooter development programs and advertise used equipment(typically in very good condition).
Having state-of-the-art equipment is very nice - but there have been some tremendous performances by capable shooters with lesser gear and many a lacklustre performance with topflight kit.
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Any idea which shooting organizations i should be contacting?
 
Thank you everyone for all the information!

What kind of test groupings do these anschutz come out of the factory with at 50m (i think thats where they are testing at.. right?)? I tried googling it and i couldnt find anything.
 
The national sport governing body for international target shooting is the Shooting Federation of Canada. Each province has the equivalent organization for local competitions. You will quickly find that there are a handful of serious competitors per province.

There used to be a Sporting Rifle class for lightweight rifles, and Match Rifle for heavier rifles fired with a sling at smaller targets. This was good for Canada. Sometime in a few decades ago, the International Shooting Union (ISU) exerted itself and Canada adopted the international rule book - mostly so our shooters could train and compete with the same gun. They have since changed the name to ISSF. Their latest category is a Standard Rifle. Imagine a heavy Sporting Rifle for 3 position.

A big word of caution. To seriously compete, you will have buy a proper heavy jacket, shooting glasses and a scope. You have to shoot these guns off your elbows, and not every shooting has the time or patience to get good in all positions.



So, find someone local. Find out what the local game is. Decide what you need to do to get into the game. And, good luck.
 
What kind of test groupings do these anschutz come out of the factory with at 50m (i think thats where they are testing at.. right?)? I tried googling it and i couldnt find anything.
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Below is the test target that came with my 1907 repeater. It is a ten shot group.

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Anschutz just made their very last run of 1907's as repeaters. They are match rifles with a magazine, the perfect rifle in my opinion. Stock is fantastic.
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My 1907 Repeater is by far my favorite rimfire. However unlike my 1407, I shoot the 1907 with a scope.

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Shooting Federation of Canada-SFC was already mentioned. You're in Calgary, how about the Calgary Rifle and Pistol Club.
ASRA through the Alberta Federation of Shooting Sports. There is some for starters. All due respect but if you are motivated you will search until you get the answers and the best people to talk to are those who are in the game that you wish to get into.
A comment by a well known shooting coach to a student who saw the coach's Olympic gold medal and said "I want one of those !"
Coach's reply "What are you prepared to do to get it?"
Regards
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Before you spent a good chunk of $ to buy a match .22 rifle, I would suggest you go visit target shooting club in your area to learn a bit about the sport you're interested in.

There are 3 rifle shooting events for men and 2 for women in Olympic Game, for men: 10 m air rifle, 50 m Free Rifle Prone and 50 M Free Rifle 3 positions: for women: 10 m Air Rifle and 50 m Sport Rifle 3 positions.

Assuming you are a gentleman, you may want to try out shooting the prone event first, look for a clean, well kept second hand 1800/1900 series Anschutz, stay away from the 64 actions, they simply don't last, as for the 2000 series with square action, the only advantage IMHO is they are much more easy to change barrel when the old barrel wore out, when buying a target rifle, pay close attention to the sight set, especially the rear sight, make sure they are in good working order.

Don't over look Walther; FWB rifles either, you'll also need to budget money for shooting jacket; spoting scope: rifle case...etc, last but not least, match rifle need to be fed with match grade ammo, they're not cheap, T22; Remington .22 Target just won't do, Good luck!
 
1st... If your dad lets you use it, stick with the Russian gun for a while... and learn the basic. If the crown is in good shape, the gun should be good enough to bring you to the national.

2st. Used the saved $$ to get a proper fitting jacket, shooting glass, shooting sling, glove... and plenty of quality ammo (and range time)

3rd. Have you decided if you want to shoot prone or 3 positions? It will influence the jacket you'll buy.

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And last but not least, find a coach... and listen to him! It will save you a whole lot of aggravation.

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ISSF shooting is fun :D
 
sillymike said:
1st... If your dad lets you use it, stick with the Russian gun for a while... and learn the basic. If the crown is in good shape, the gun should be good enough to bring you to the national.

The rifle is brand spanking new so im going to experiment with it next week
2st. Used the saved $$ to get a proper fitting jacket, shooting glass, shooting sling, glove... and plenty of quality ammo (and range time)

Shooting glass?
3rd. Have you decided if you want to shoot prone or 3 positions? It will influence the jacket you'll buy.
No i have not but im pretty sure ill know by the end of next week
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And last but not least, find a coach... and listen to him! It will save you a whole lot of aggravation.

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ISSF shooting is fun :D
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Thanks for the advice
 
To sum up ISSF rifle shooting... you are chasing the 10 ring, which isn't all that big... and the goal is to shoot 60 of them consecutively (or 120 if shooting 3P)... for one match.

In order to do so, you need to repeat the exact same thing over and over again. Same sight picture, same position, same trigger release, same cheek pressure, same shouldering of the rifle... If you don't, you'll get a 9-8-7... or miss...

The glass will help you to get you head in the same position.

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I'm guessing you'll start with prone shooting (Must of us did, unless you were a 10M air rifle shooter). It is the most stable position to learn the basic.

One of the reason I was suggesting the Russian rifle, is that new guns can offer too much adjustment. And many shooters have made the mistake of wasting too much time fiddling with the features of the rifle instead of working on their technique.

If you like to read, may I suggest: WAYS OF THE RIFLE, by Abhinav Bindra
 
When I approached age 40 I found my eyes changed every three or four years. Each time required a noticeable change of perscription. The correction in the top left corner of my right lens became less and less accurate. A pair of proper Champion glasses with individually adjustable lens holders made that a nonproblem. Change those lens periodically, but keep the daily wear glasses for getting around and onto the firing point. Yes the optician's office called them an appliance, but when I laid down on their floor and demonstrated the difference of head position, they took it as professional challenge.
 
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