Sold it to an indigenous fellow who wanted it to use nighthunting deer on crown land (legal in Manitoba), he got busted nighthunting on private land and now the Gov`t owns the Ruger. You have to admit after my Ruger experience why would I ever buy another one? When I buy a Tikka I have full confidence that it will perform properly and shoot great and they always have.
Any arguments against the Ruger American?
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Sold it to an indigenous fellow who wanted it to use nighthunting deer on crown land (legal in Manitoba), he got busted nighthunting on private land and now the Gov`t owns the Ruger. You have to admit after my Ruger experience why would I ever buy another one? When I buy a Tikka I have full confidence that it will perform properly and shoot great and they always have.
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I reckon the main reason for Ruger's QC issues these days is due to the working environment the employees have to put up with. That along with the general. piss poor work ethics of the folks workin' there these days. Corporate greed be the main push in this area along with weak work ethics.
Compare the Beretta way of doing things to Ruger's model and the differences are very clear.
Beretta's way.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ber...#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f73add8f,vid:uWXGbgB2UWM
Ruger's way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-JJL4aosU
I sure know which company I'd rather work for.
Compare the Beretta way of doing things to Ruger's model and the differences are very clear.
Beretta's way.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ber...#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f73add8f,vid:uWXGbgB2UWM
Ruger's way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-JJL4aosU
I sure know which company I'd rather work for.
Hahahaha
Well, you do have a point, but all the points are kind of true. As always, it depends on what you want in a rifle.
I don't have any rusting problems with mine and I don't really take care of them at all, depsite being in humid conditions half of the year. If they get soaked with rain I hose them down with Ballistol which I think is one of, if not the best products to use on actually wet firearms as the ballistol emulsifies or something with the water. Other than that they get an occasional cleaning and a G96 wipe down.
LOL
That is actually pretty good. But I'll go with what Gatehouse says about "depends what one wants in a rifle"
Fit and finish are decent. I find em plenty good enough. Not running into these problems others are describing. Simply hasn't happened with a decent sample size. I mean I've had more warranty need with brand new Winchester 70s than Ruger Americans lol.
Have one sitting right next to a Tikka and honestly not seeing much qualitative different besides maybe less to wax poetic about. If people like a higher degree of fit and finish, awesome. drive on. Do you.
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I reckon the main reason for Ruger's QC issues these days is due to the working environment the employees have to put up with. That along with the general. piss poor work ethics of the folks workin' there these days. Corporate greed be the main push in this area along with weak work ethics.
Compare the Beretta way of doing things to Ruger's model and the differences are very clear.
Beretta's way.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ber...#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f73add8f,vid:uWXGbgB2UWM
Ruger's way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-JJL4aosU
I sure know which company I'd rather work for.
They could just move their operation to Portugal....lol
Or cut corners as badly as Bergara did although I love their rifles and do want another B14, but its mostly because of the painted stock and fluted bolt asthetic these days. Definitely not for how $1399 gets you a cheap cast pot metal bolt shroud that used to break and threads that strip out. Alas.
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Hey man mine worked too.
Aesthetics and "feel" are ethereal things. I know those can be hard for (us) scientists to grasp
Also it is gun nuts after all; in the end its all minutia
Two of my good buddies, the only "gun nuts" I talk guns with outside of this forum are very pro ruger american. One has even more than you; they too have owned many, many guns.
No accounting for taste their though, they are friends with me after all
Aesthetics and "feel" are ethereal things. I know those can be hard for (us) scientists to grasp
Also it is gun nuts after all; in the end its all minutia
Two of my good buddies, the only "gun nuts" I talk guns with outside of this forum are very pro ruger american. One has even more than you; they too have owned many, many guns.
No accounting for taste their though, they are friends with me after all
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Hey man mine worked too.
Aesthetics and "feel" are ethereal things. I know those can be hard for (us) scientists to grasp
Also it is gun nuts after all; in the end its all minutia
Hah!
in terms of science for us then...I fully admit they are not the most repeatable experiment. Some of em have been a might rougher than others for sure.
Friend of mine got an American in .300 win mag. Someone convinced him he needed one for moose hunting. Not a bad rifle, not fond of the Tupperware stock. He got me to sight it in for him, recoil was a little unpleasant and I'm not sensitive to it. Shot good though, a little over one Moa. Originally told him to buy used but not a good listener.
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one of my friends had one in his vast collection and loved it. It got surprisingly good accuracy. I never ended up buying one as I could never justify the pre-pandemic cost when compared to a cz527 or browning xbolt. When the cz527 was $800 shipped new and you could get some models of xbolt for $700 new, I felt the slight extra cost was worth it.
At 650 new today maybe, depending on the caliber, but I'd probably try to pick up one of the cheaper submodels of the cz557.
At 650 new today maybe, depending on the caliber, but I'd probably try to pick up one of the cheaper submodels of the cz557.
I would find a good lightly used tikka. I have two ruger ranch rifles. They fail to impress me. The actions are rough and the machining marks look like a POW or slave made it. It shoots half decent but there’s more to a rifle than that. I would pass if I was you. I got mine for 625 a piece and feel cheated at that price.
I sure know blacktail hunting which is why I use stainless rifles for hunting
My experience with the RA is strictly with the .223 versions that run AR mags. But I have tens of thousands of rounds of experience- but all range use and from super hot summers to wet winters.
If I was going to hunt with them on the west coast I would sure up on the maintaining of them. I have had very good quality blued rifles rust like hell on salt water coastal hunts, daily oiling was required, whereas the stainless rifles on the hunts required minimal upkeep.
Again, it's what you want and your budget when it comes to rifles. Many times I know that the animal I just shot would be just as dead with a budget rifle. But I feel more cool with a $4000 custom hunting rifle.
6 years, 6 seasons, 6 whitetail and a ton of rounds down the tube in everything from sun to snow to sleet. From +40 to -40. 1/2 MOA all day with my handloads. I've carried and shot my Ruger more than any other bolt gun I own or have owned. It ain't pretty, it ain't fancy, but it works.
6 years, 6 seasons, 6 whitetail and a ton of rounds down the tube in everything from sun to snow to sleet. From +40 to -40. 1/2 MOA all day with my handloads. I've carried and shot my Ruger more than any other bolt gun I own or have owned. It ain't pretty, it ain't fancy, but it works.
I'd ask if you can't afford nicer guns but then I see the Swaro on it up top
Kiddin! That one is a shooter. Never tried that model. Think I am going to very soon though.
How do you like the Sig scope? That ones a Whiskey3? Likely be a Vx-Freedom 2-7x33 here.
Good hunting!
I sure know blacktail hunting which is why I use stainless rifles for hunting
ya, jump into the next bracket with stainless options, not really for this thread, I continue to dream about the hawkeye stainless in .204 ruger has listed but just chamber in 6.5g and I'm gonna be scrambling for some cash and if someone wants to let go of a older 77 stainless 7.62x39 boat paddle stock so I can rebarrel to 6.5g I'll be all ears, got a sweet pair of Leica ultravid hd 10x32's that know how to find sheep I would consider swapping for one
