Any experience with a cz canvasback?

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... you just can't get the Target or BRNO 30" in Canada! That sucks.

I haven't seen any Sporters in Canada, so I can't comment on those.

Why is the availability of CZ shotguns in Canada so poor? I would think they would sell a lot more of them if people could get them. I have asked two dealers about finding me a 26" Canvasback, they both replied that that configuration was not available. A quick look at gunbroker demonstrates that the 12-26 Canvasback is a regular production item, so I don't understand where the problem is?
 
Why is the availability of CZ shotguns in Canada so poor? I would think they would sell a lot more of them if people could get them. I have asked two dealers about finding me a 26" Canvasback, they both replied that that configuration was not available. A quick look at gunbroker demonstrates that the 12-26 Canvasback is a regular production item, so I don't understand where the problem is?

Last year talking to a dealer that I know, he said the problem was with the way the Canadian distributor is doing things. Also, there is really no CZ Canada. So as usual, the US is first to get orders filled as far as availability of guns go. We kind of get the left overs.
 
I don't know about that. Epps told me they can order me a Mallard all day long. The other variants are simply not available for them to order from their distributor.
 
What about the browning Citori white lightning? I can't honestly see myself ever spending 3-4000 on a shotgun.


Browning's Citori White Lightning will, in all probability, serve you extremely well in the blind and on the ATA field. I realise that most people are talking about ATA when they say "Trap". Trap also includes the international game, which is virtually a completely different sport. The makes that I talked about above are suitable for both ATA and International. The Citori makes an excellent choice for ATA, but less so for International.

For both ATA and International, I would advise people to stay clear of ported barrels. While ported barrels are legal in both games (subject to a bunch of rules in the International game), and they do reduce muzzle flip, they are despised by all the other shooters in the squad because of the excess noise. Similarly, semi-autos are common in the ATA game, but rare in International competition.

We're not talking about semis here, but I wanted to point out some of the similarities and the differences between equipment suitable for each game. A Citori would serve you well at ATA and would make a decent starter gun if you ever decided to try your hand at International Trap.

I don't know about that. Epps told me they can order me a Mallard all day long. The other variants are simply not available for them to order from their distributor.

You nailed it. Availabilty of models differs between the US and Canada because in the US CZ-USA decides what models to carry (and probably influences what new models are produced), whereas the Canadian volume hardly warrants bringing in all the current models, let alone creating new ones specifically for this market. I'd be willing to bet that CZ sold more shotguns in Canada than it originally expected to, though. They tend to be modestly priced for the segments in which they compete. While product quality could be improved, doing so would push the prices up to where the market is already saturated (and demand significantly lower because of it).
 
I don't know about that. Epps told me they can order me a Mallard all day long. The other variants are simply not available for them to order from their distributor.[/QUOTE]

Which is exactly what I am saying. There are a lot more models than the mallard (and not everyone wants a mallard) so why isn't the distributor getting them?
 
Browning's Citori White Lightning will, in all probability, serve you extremely well in the blind and on the ATA field. I realise that most people are talking about ATA when they say "Trap". Trap also includes the international game, which is virtually a completely different sport. The makes that I talked about above are suitable for both ATA and International. The Citori makes an excellent choice for ATA, but less so for International.

For both ATA and International, I would advise people to stay clear of ported barrels. While ported barrels are legal in both games (subject to a bunch of rules in the International game), and they do reduce muzzle flip, they are despised by all the other shooters in the squad because of the excess noise. Similarly, semi-autos are common in the ATA game, but rare in International competition.

We're not talking about semis here, but I wanted to point out some of the similarities and the differences between equipment suitable for each game. A Citori would serve you well at ATA and would make a decent starter gun if you ever decided to try your hand at International Trap.



You nailed it. Availabilty of models differs between the US and Canada because in the US CZ-USA decides what models to carry (and probably influences what new models are produced), whereas the Canadian volume hardly warrants bringing in all the current models, let alone creating new ones specifically for this market. I'd be willing to bet that CZ sold more shotguns in Canada than it originally expected to, though. They tend to be modestly priced for the segments in which they compete. While product quality could be improved, doing so would push the prices up to where the market is already saturated (and demand significantly lower because of it).

Yes they probably did so it would make no sense to have nothing to offer here for a model selection. Maybe not the number of models in the US but there was a lot more to choose from a couple of years ago besides a mallard. You could find CZ's a couple of years ago with not too much problem. The last year or so has been a real pain for anyone wanting one.
 
I don't know about that. Epps told me they can order me a Mallard all day long. The other variants are simply not available for them to order from their distributor.

Which is exactly what I am saying. There are a lot more models than the mallard (and not everyone wants a mallard) so why isn't the distributor getting them?

I have no idea. I was really keen on buying a CZ shotgun for awhile until I found out how impossible that might be.
 
I have no idea. I was really keen on buying a CZ shotgun for awhile until I found out how impossible that might be.

I agree. Their sales would be increased by quite a bit if one could find them now in Canada. WSS in Winnipeg doesn't handle them anymore, Cabela's in Winnipeg doesn't handle them. Probably because they can't get any.
 
I agree. Their sales would be increased by quite a bit if one could find them now in Canada. WSS in Winnipeg doesn't handle them anymore, Cabela's in Winnipeg doesn't handle them. Probably because they can't get any.

Must be. It's a shame because I think that there is a market for them. From all accounts they are a quality firearm for a reasonable price.
 
Sure makes you wonder with all those distributors what's going on with CZ as to why the availability and selection in Canada is so poor the last couple of years. With the niche they are filling price wise to quality in the SxS and over/under market, one would think sales would not be a problem. They represent very good value for cost, especially when compared to the Mossberg silver reserve or the Stevens 512.
 
Epps has a whole bunch of CZ shotguns they added today. Upland Ultralight, Woodcock Deluxe, Bob White, Mallard and coach guns.
 
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