Any Interest in a Bolt Action 45/70

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I have a 450 Marlin in BLR and 45/70 in a Marlin.Of course I would love a Sabatti SXS but I won't spend 4-6k on a gun. I would have bought a bolt action, preferably with a clip (at least 10 shot) first if someone would have made them. The 45/70 is still very popular and I'm sure would sell. Lets see if this is of interest and what rifle would you want it made in. Judging from other threads everyone will say Cooper off course.
 
abolt said:
gibbs made them, based on enfields. I would love to have one.
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Those Gibbs guns look pretty neat. Only thing that has had me leery was the fact that it's an enfield action with rear lugs for a 45/70. Would I be far off in supposing that it might not be too tolerant of high pressure loads?

It's not really a huge concern, but it's nice to have a gun that you know should be able to take absolutely anything you throw at it.

Just for giggles I'd take a mauser action in 45/70, since the enfield mag only holds 3rds of 45/70 anyways.
 
Im interested, I tried to get one converted by a Guy in Toms Lake,BC who was advertising..I sent him a No.4 Sporter and money for a Barrel and the guy disapeared . Its not a huge loss but it sucks to get Ripped off. The biggest problem with the conversion is getting the detachable magazine..I think the guy was getting them made offshore in indonesia or other.
 
Everyone is free to choose his own poison, but I fail to see the glamour in a custom .45/70 bolt gun when a standard .458 Winchester is available from so many makers for less money. A .458 loaded to .45/70 pressures is a joy to shoot, affordable, accurate as you could wish for, and the brass lasts forever. On the day you want/need more power, its there, without straining the limits of the cartridge or the rifle to the bursting limits.
 
Boomer said:
standard .458 Winchester is available from so many makers for less money.
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That was the problem....I never did find an affordable 458 at the time so it was cheaper to spend 5-6 hundred on converting a gun I owned.....well actually in my case it wasnt' but I had good intentions ;).

If I was to go through that again I would probably consider the 458 all depending on the price and availability.
 
Pathfinder said:
That was the problem....I never did find an affordable 458 at the time so it was cheaper to spend 5-6 hundred on converting a gun I owned.....well actually in my case it wasnt' but I had good intentions ;).

If I was to go through that again I would probably consider the 458 all depending on the price and availability.
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My experience with custom rifles, not that I've had that many, is that I have never manged to get one for the price of an off the shelf rifle, but in most cases they've provided me with something the off the shelf rifle does not. Often you see factory big bore rifles (.458 and larger) for sale at reasonable prices with comments attached like, ". . . fired once, will trade for a .223!"
 
Boomer said:
My experience with custom rifles, not that I've had that many, is that I have never manged to get one for the price of an off the shelf rifle, but in most cases they've provided me with something the off the shelf rifle does not. Often you see factory big bore rifles (.458 and larger) for sale at reasonable prices with comments attached like, ". . . fired once, will trade for a .223!"
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My favourite is "like new condition, comes with 19 rounds of factory ammo."
 
Boomer said:
Everyone is free to choose his own poison, but I fail to see the glamour in a custom .45/70 bolt gun when a standard .458 Winchester is available from so many makers for less money. A .458 loaded to .45/70 pressures is a joy to shoot, affordable, accurate as you could wish for, and the brass lasts forever. On the day you want/need more power, its there, without straining the limits of the cartridge or the rifle to the bursting limits.
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Well said.

I gave the same advice to another fellow recently....Who is also now looking for an inexpensive 458.
One of my favorites for this sort of "lite duty" 458 application would have to be a Whitworth.

The 458 is a great round...Way too much fun! :D
 
No to brag, but I got my 458 X 2 inch FN Mauser, with dies and 40 brass for 400 bucks all in, purchased in 1999.
This action sits presently in a Boyd's laminate stock, came with new retro trigger assembly, & williams guide peep sight.
Lots of room inside the magazine well, to load long for calibre bullets too.
Shoots really well, and I bought the RCBS cartridge conversion dies, and I have lots of discarded range brass to switch over.
(any regular H&H based magnum casing)
 
Boomer said:
Everyone is free to choose his own poison, but I fail to see the glamour in a custom .45/70 bolt gun when a standard .458 Winchester is available from so many makers for less money. A .458 loaded to .45/70 pressures is a joy to shoot, affordable, accurate as you could wish for, and the brass lasts forever. On the day you want/need more power, its there, without straining the limits of the cartridge or the rifle to the bursting limits.
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Agreed 100%.
 
CGN in the US is selling the Remington Zastava rifles in 458 for something like 399 or 499, can't remember, was in the last Shotgun News. I just want a 45/70 over a 458 same reason I will take a 7x57 over a 7-08, has to do with history. Same reason some will take a 375 H&H over a 375 Ruger. Logic and being a gun nut don't always see eye to eye.
 
traderal said:
CGN in the US is selling the Remington Zastava rifles in 458 for something like 399 or 499, can't remember, was in the last Shotgun News. I just want a 45/70 over a 458 same reason I will take a 7x57 over a 7-08, has to do with history. Same reason some will take a 375 H&H over a 375 Ruger. Logic and being a gun nut don't always see eye to eye.
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Tradition would suggest a falling block or lever action .45/70, but hey, if a .45/70 bolt gun is what grabs your imagination, full steam ahead.
 
H Wally said:
Those Gibbs guns look pretty neat. Only thing that has had me leery was the fact that it's an enfield action with rear lugs for a 45/70. Would I be far off in supposing that it might not be too tolerant of high pressure loads?

It's not really a huge concern, but it's nice to have a gun that you know should be able to take absolutely anything you throw at it.

Just for giggles I'd take a mauser action in 45/70, since the enfield mag only holds 3rds of 45/70 anyways.
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No doubt you'd be at the upper end of the tolerance level for the Lee action, but the hottest load for 45-70 is about 50 000 cup. And there are Lee's chambered for 7.62X51;)
 
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