Any interest in handgun hunting?

every year during season down here, I am tempted to go out in the desert to hunt Javelina with either of my revolvers. Never been big into hunting but when I have, I always believed in eating what you hunt. There in lies my dilemma - don't think I want to eat something that is a cousin to a friggin' rat :rolleyes: ;)

some folks down here hunt Elk with magnum revolvers. Now that would be cool.
 
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Javelinas are not in the same family as rodents, they are in fact closer to pigs and pecaries!

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opps, ya caught me, I forgot the sarcasm smilie. Went back and added it in my post just now. OK? You are half correct, Javelina is a Colared Peccary, pig "like" but not related to pigs. good linky here They are members of the Tayassuidae Family while true pigs are members of the Suidae Family.

Anyway, down here everyone jokes about relatives to rats because they smell like rats, scavenge like rats, and are mostly ugly like rats. Although my wife thinks the young ones are sort of cute - yea sure. We see them often on hikes and frequently behind our property out in desert scrub. Can smell them if they come up to property line. Gotta be careful with dogs, they can be vicious if feel threatened, especially when they have youngsters.
 
I killed moose with a .30-30 for a decade and never needed a second shot, I would feel entirely confident hunting deer or black bear with a .44 magnum revolver, 7-8 inch barrel and 240 gr bullets...

However, as many have stated above, a rimfire pistol would make much more sense.
 
I have some interest. By some I mean bare minimum.

A rifle will always be superior. A .44mag is powerful in terms of handguns yet it wouldn't even come close to as effective as just about any rifle cartridge. Would you trust yourself to hit the vitals of a deer with a handgun out to 100yards? Having a .410 revolver in a holster may be useful if you happen to flush a grouse well hunting for deer. I have no idea what kind of spread or range they have though so a .22 pistol would probably be better. The only reason why I would want this to actually be legal, is so that we can legally use handguns out on the back roads with out an ATT or ATC whatever its called.

So.....I'm guessing you aren't a bow hunter either.....?

The fact is that there are thousands of animals taken cleanly with archery tackle, from primitive longbows to hi-tech compounds, every year. With similar max ranges there's no ethical reason that bowhunting should be allowed while handguns aren't. You just hunt appropriately with your gear.
 
Not necessarily true. The actual text of Section 19 of the Firearms Act says:

The words bolded mean that the CFO can issue an ATT for any reason he/she feels is valid, not just the ones listed. We could all be carrying in the bush tomorrow if the CFO's decided to change policy and allow it.


Mark

And they do issue wilderness ATCs already to trappers so they can humanly kill animals caught in traps, and for those who need to carry a gun for protection while working, but whose duties require both hands, thus prohibit the carrying of a long gun. Extending this to handgun hunting doesn't seem like so much of a leap, except that it takes the commercial requirement away, and opens the door to the recreational use of handguns off range.
 
A nice little .22LR revolver to take a few chickens for camp supper = winning. A sturdy 357 or 44 to take a deer or moose at bow range also = winning. Not having to lug 8-10lbs of rifle while you're packing out a big game animal = priceless!

Good excuse to buy a S&W 629 and/or 686. I'm not taking my Model 19 out to hunt with except on nice days.

Would it be redundant to say that I'd be all over it?:D
 
.22 revolver for grouse and rabbits. I feel we need to pressure the province to allow hunting with a handgun. Then put the squeeze on the CFO to include that on our ATT's. Or better yet, get rid of ATT's altogether. I want my rights back!
 
Oh would that ever be fun. When it comes to hunting skin heads and other "less" challenging animals this would be awesome. I can think of quite a few hunts that I would start using a revolver for immediately.
Cougar with dogs, coyote calling, any does, etc.

An older 3 screw unfluted Ruger Black Hawk with 7" tube would be the ticket. Some cast 270gr LBTs or Hornady 265's would be in the cylinders, with the excellent open sights that are on it. Oh, it is a .44 of course. Its the 30-06 equivalent.
 
I have all kinds of tools with more power than a 44 to use. An XP-100 in 7/08 and a contender in 35rem would be my first picks. The "power" given up to rifles in the same cartridges is irrelevant. But I wouldn't pass up a 44mag either.
 
That would be great, also in the summer backpacking/fishing months with a leg holster for those nasty bears and cougars. Shot gun gets to be to cumbersome. S&W model 629 44MAG !!! Giddy-up
 
Sure!

I kept this one NIB...just in case!

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id would be real nice and give us a legal reason to have handguns :) but you guys talking about the turas judge its a waste of money its over bored for .45 its rifled and its not too powerful people who have them for home defense are out to lunch even with buckshot they suck its a gimmick gun.

a .22 for small gae and yes a .357 mag would beable to kill deer at the top end of bow ranges a .44 mag would be best for deer and black bear(common use if for even bigger bear protection you could with a good shot take a moose with it) a .500 S&W(and even a DE with the longer barrel would do) would be good for moose and game that would eat you (brown bear,griz,ect)
 
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Interesting.
Seems we need new CFOs that aren't running their own little empire.

So is it just our range ATTs that have the "approved range" bit? I can't remember.

All of C-68 was set up to be a nuisance to firearms owners, this is no different. The entire federal firearms bureaucracy is anti-gun and not interested in allowing reasonable things to happen.


it is a difficult thing to get legalized because the provinces dictate what you can hunt with...I have been told the provinces won't allow it because the feds won't allow the carrying of handguns in the woods and one of the excuses the fed use is that the provinces don't allow handgun hunting so there is no point in trying to do the work to change the laws...it is a serious catch 22...I wonder which end is best to start working from...the feds or the provinces...it would be a great thing for us river salmon fishermen and bow hunters to have as an option for predator defence...it sucks having to carry a shotgun while fishing it really gets in the way and it is pretty pointless to leave it on the shore.

By far the best place to start is with your province, it is easier to effect change on smaller scales. Does BC expressly prohibit hunting with handguns? Not all provinces do. The last two years in a row the Alberta Fish & Game Association has put forth a request to remove the prohibition on handgun hunting in the Alberta regs, but so far the government has stonewalled. We got the prohibition on crossbows removed a few years ago, so handguns are not beyond imagination.


I never saw the sense in not being able to carry a holstered 22 pistol for small game when you're deer hunting.

Walk all over the land with a 300 win mag? No problem.
Want to take a rimfire pistol with you? What are you, an Al Queda?? :HR:

Our laws make a lot more sense when looked at as a civilian disarmament agenda, instead of as public safety measures.


And they do issue wilderness ATCs already to trappers so they can humanly kill animals caught in traps, and for those who need to carry a gun for protection while working, but whose duties require both hands, thus prohibit the carrying of a long gun. Extending this to handgun hunting doesn't seem like so much of a leap, except that it takes the commercial requirement away, and opens the door to the recreational use of handguns off range.

Exactly. There are already two ways wilderness carry for hunting could be achieved overnight. The CFO could either issue wilderness ATC's to any hunter requesting one or they could issue STATT's that were good for the hunting season and WMU's that will be hunted in. Easy peasy.


Abso-friggin-lutely.
I'm going to start writing letters. Who should I direct them to?

First, confirm that your provincial hunting regs expressly prohibit hunting with a handgun. If they do, start writing to your local MLA, the minister in charge of natural resources/hunting and maybe your premier. Second, write to your MP (if CPC) and start working on them to loosen the rules from the federal side.

Use the argument posed by SoBored above. We can hunt with powerful centerfire rifles, but a rimfire pistol is somehow too dangerous to be allowed? Point out how ridiculous this idea is. Also point out that handgun hunting is comparable to archery hunting and is an accepted practice in many US states.


Mark
 
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