any of you shooting the .350 Legend?

Suther said:
The numbers I used was a 16% difference, but I'm sure you can cherry pick specific ammo to make it 20%. Then again, if you compare it to a 80gr tsx at 3350 (Barnes factory ammo specs) it's only 9.9ft lbs, or like 3% difference.

The claims in the marketing are pretty dubious. They claim more energy than a 30-30 at 200yds, with the 30-30 only having 781ft lbs to the 903 ftlbs for the 350... But 160gr leverevolution 30-30 has 1300ftlbs at 200yds, federal fusion 170gr claims 1115ft lbs, and even a 150gr round nose interlock claims 830ft lbs @200, so they must have picked the lamest 30-30 load they could find.
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Yeah, maybe. You've crunched far more numbers on this topic that I ever will. I just read a few reviews that said 20%. If the 30-30 or 243 were legal everywhere, there probably wouldn't be much initiative for companies to develop new cartridges to conform to the regulations.
 
As Designed the 350 Legend is good for those who are recoil sensitive and where their hunting areas are regulated for straight-walled-cartridges. It will be difficult to market beyond that type of criteria... Unless shooters buy it - "just because". If we revisit the other 35 caliber cartridges that are close to a straight walled case - we'd see the 35 Remington, 356 Winchester and the 358 Winchester are better picks. My pick of those cartridges is the middle one... the 356 Winchester. I'd like to see it back again with rifles; either single shot, or levers that tote a 24 inch barrel and a 4 or 5 shot magazine. Which would be still compact enough - but adds a bit of performance. And for me that's a "just because" choice. I doubt that I'd consider a 350 Legend - it just doesn't appeal to me - for what it is. Even the 358 Winchester would gain a slight benefit from a Browning BLR with a 24 inch barrel. To sum it up, I'd like to see cartridges and rifles that work from an ideal efficiency point of view rather then holding them back with a short barrel.
 
Gatehouse said:
Yeah, maybe. You've crunched far more numbers on this topic that I ever will. I just read a few reviews that said 20%. If the 30-30 or 243 were legal everywhere, there probably wouldn't be much initiative for companies to develop new cartridges to conform to the regulations.
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The Winchester marketing material said 20% less recoil and 20% better penetration, so they were likely just parroting what Winchester was already saying about it. Their attempt at making it look so much better than a 243 or a 30-30 irks me though, because the numbers just don't add up so to speak.

Highwind said:
As Designed the 350 Legend is good for those who are recoil sensitive and where their hunting areas are regulated for straight-walled-cartridges. It will be difficult to market beyond that type of criteria... Unless shooters buy it - "just because". If we revisit the other 35 caliber cartridges that are close to a straight walled case - we'd see the 35 Remington, 356 Winchester and the 358 Winchester are better picks. My pick of those cartridges is the middle one... the 356 Winchester. I'd like to see it back again with rifles; either single shot, or levers that tote a 24 inch barrel and a 4 or 5 shot magazine. Which would be still compact enough - but adds a bit of performance. And for me that's a "just because" choice. I doubt that I'd consider a 350 Legend - it just doesn't appeal to me - for what it is. Even the 358 Winchester would gain a slight benefit from a Browning BLR with a 24 inch barrel. To sum it up, I'd like to see cartridges and rifles that work from an ideal efficiency point of view rather then holding them back with a short barrel.
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I dunno. One of the great attributes of smaller cases is the fact you don't need as much barrel length to get good efficiency. Now, don't get me wrong, longer barrels will almost always give more velocity, but that gain from 20" to 24" is going to be marginal in any of the small-to-medium 35 caliber cartridges discussed and I'd certainly rather the shorter barrel for maneuverability and ease of handling.
 
there was a previous thread on this before. There is a semi wildcat called the 357max rimless at 1.6 case length and legend is at 1.7.it looks to be a revival of the 351WSL with a 355 bullet .
Have a 1910 WSL rifle converted to 357max and shoots pretty good and a fun toy
 
Mr. Friendly said:
... that .357 Maximum is an interesting cartridge.
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I made an SB2 Handi rifle set in .357 Max/.445 Super Mag/7.62X39... it was intended as a fun little range toy for screwing around, but I ended up shooting a few WT does with both, the Max and SM... brass is still available, a couple companies do regular runs.
 
which I had the coin and knowhow on playing around with stuff...but I'm a dimwit and all thumbs. :(

it can be split into another thread, but are there any high velocity rimmed cartridges?
 
Mr. Friendly said:
which I had the coin and knowhow on playing around with stuff...but I'm a dimwit and all thumbs. :(

it can be split into another thread, but are there any high velocity rimmed cartridges?
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Depends on your definition of high velocity... But the 460sw pushes a 200gr @ 2300fps, and 303brit has a rim... 9.3x74r will do 2550fps w/230gr pills...
 
Mr. Friendly said:
which I had the coin and knowhow on playing around with stuff...but I'm a dimwit and all thumbs. :(

it can be split into another thread, but are there any high velocity rimmed cartridges?
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.220 Swift... not one of the rimmiest, but one of the swiftiest...
 
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