Any thoughts on the new model Savage rifle with the Accu-stock?

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I just read an article in Rifle magazine and it's peaked my intrest. The did away with the fluted barrel nut and relocated the bolt release to the trigger guard. I think it looks quite nice, and that bedding block in the stock is just different enough to be cool. Plus they have some interesting chamberings such as the .250 and .300 Savage. Any thoughts?

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My last trip out with a new precision carbine with the Accu-stock was a good indication of how it will work...Stock rifle in .308 shooting Federal Gold Metal Match ammo(168gr) gave me the following groups-1st group-3rds at .54moa@300yrds, 2nd group-3rds at .62moa@300yards, 3rd group- 4rds at .32moa@300 yards, 4th group was the worst at 4rds at .87moa@300yards with the called flyer included and .37moa at 300yards without the flyer included.

Would that make the Savage a working rifle for $820? The stock is very nice and handles well. Worth the interest in my view. I would not trade it for another rifle.
 
Duncan Idaho said:
Neat idea, but the only thing they can't overcome is that it's still a Savage.
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No, no, you guys don't get it. He means they can't overcome the fact that Savages are well built, innovative, accurate and cost less than just about anything else. Not to mention they are the only ones offering the .250 Savage and .300 Savage, two extremely fine hunting cartridges. Get it?
 
1899 said:
No, no, you guys don't get it. He means they can't overcome the fact that Savages are well built, innovative, accurate and cost less than just about anything else. Not to mention they are the only ones offering the .250 Savage and .300 Savage, two extremely fine hunting cartridges. Get it?
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HAH HAH, I love the way you handled that 1899 ;)

Where was the intelligence in his comment? Did anyone benefit from it? I realize that we are entitled to our opinions but would it be too much to expect them to be constructive with research or experience behind them. Is that not what a forum is for!

Anyway, back on topic, I am going to be getting a 7mm Rem Mag in the spring and I have really been gravitating to Savage. I like the variety and all the positive feed back about them. I don't think the price can be argued either, they have some great rifles for under $800. I would like to hear more personal experiences on how they are doing in the field.
 
I have the savage 7mm mag rifle in the deal with the scope that SIR had and still has. That rifle is awesome, absolutely love it. The only thing i would trade it for is a new savage with the acuutrigger and stock...as they did not have that at the time of my purchase.
 
Earlier this century(grin), I hunted with three guys who were savage lovers and shooters. Year one a fellow used my backup rifle to kill his deer a spring or something in is trigger system broke, year two a guy got a new Savage(114 I think) we discovered after firing two boxes of shells in the incredibly hard hitting 30-06 cartridge his stock was severely cracked at the tang(model 70 to the rescue again) and year three, magazine follower broke making it a single shot, I don't need to mention what the solution was again.

Bottom line, none of these three rifles were more than 5 years old, none were abused in any way, all three were very accurate and all three were totally unreliable in three different ways.

Accutrigger or accustock, barrel nut or not, they are still POS Savage rifles and sooner or later at the moment of truth you will be disappointed, swearing at your rifle and will be remembering this incredibly smart prophetic post.
 
martinbns said:
Earlier this century(grin), I hunted with three guys who were savage lovers and shooters. Year one a fellow used my backup rifle to kill his deer a spring or something in is trigger system broke, year two a guy got a new Savage(114 I think) we discovered after firing two boxes of shells in the incredibly hard hitting 30-06 cartridge his stock was severely cracked at the tang(model 70 to the rescue again) and year three, magazine follower broke making it a single shot, I don't need to mention what the solution was again.

Bottom line, none of these three rifles were more than 5 years old, none were abused in any way, all three were very accurate and all three were totally unreliable in three different ways.

Accutrigger or accustock, barrel nut or not, they are still POS Savage rifles and sooner or later at the moment of truth you will be disappointed, swearing at your rifle and will be remembering this incredibly smart prophetic post.
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Sounds like my experience.... but with Remingtons. Extractors and magazines were my culprit. Never had a problem with the Savages I have owned.
 
From what I have seen, all makes of new rifle can have problems. I will keep using my Stevens 200 and expect no problems with it. I have had a model 70 Winchester and was happy with that too, but it was traded off for something else. The only rifle that I will never let go is an old Savage 340 in .30-30 that was my fathers, and it too my first whitetail.
 
I have 4 savage rifles and have experienced NO failure in any of the components. All of them are far more accurate than any other factory rifle I own. All of them except a .243 have the Accutrigger. I have a .270 with the Accustock and it is noticibly stiffer in the fore end than the other synthetic stocks. IMO Savage arms president Ron Colburn has hired the best engineers and it shows. Savage guns are not cheap because of inferior components, Exactly the oposite infact, they are more affordable because they have increased market share every year since Colburn took over, This has allowed them to lower the production costs turning that benefit onto the consumer.
Don't knock it till you try it.
 
martinbns said:
Earlier this century(grin), I hunted with three guys who were savage lovers and shooters. Year one a fellow used my backup rifle to kill his deer a spring or something in is trigger system broke, year two a guy got a new Savage(114 I think) we discovered after firing two boxes of shells in the incredibly hard hitting 30-06 cartridge his stock was severely cracked at the tang(model 70 to the rescue again) and year three, magazine follower broke making it a single shot, I don't need to mention what the solution was again.

Bottom line, none of these three rifles were more than 5 years old, none were abused in any way, all three were very accurate and all three were totally unreliable in three different ways.

Accutrigger or accustock, barrel nut or not, they are still POS Savage rifles and sooner or later at the moment of truth you will be disappointed, swearing at your rifle and will be remembering this incredibly smart prophetic post.
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Keep using the model 70! I'm sure it will let you down! ;) The 3 model 70's we had in for repairs in this last week would seem to confirm that. A broken bolt, a split stock, and a safety that wouldn't work, two of these on newer guns. I should probably mention that we did have one old Savage 99 in for repairs in this time period as well. They are all machines, they all will need repairs from time to time! I know literally dozens of Savage shooters who have used them for many years with nary a problem.
 
martinbns said:
Earlier this century(grin), I hunted with three guys who were savage lovers and shooters. Year one a fellow used my backup rifle to kill his deer a spring or something in is trigger system broke, year two a guy got a new Savage(114 I think) we discovered after firing two boxes of shells in the incredibly hard hitting 30-06 cartridge his stock was severely cracked at the tang(model 70 to the rescue again) and year three, magazine follower broke making it a single shot, I don't need to mention what the solution was again.

Bottom line, none of these three rifles were more than 5 years old, none were abused in any way, all three were very accurate and all three were totally unreliable in three different ways.

Accutrigger or accustock, barrel nut or not, they are still POS Savage rifles and sooner or later at the moment of truth you will be disappointed, swearing at your rifle and will be remembering this incredibly smart prophetic post.
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Probably sabotoged by a disgruntled model 70 owner cause his rifle wouldn't shoot as well.;)
 
The Savage 116FCSS looks like a really nice hunting rifle for $800, with its accutrigger and accustock and detachable magazine it could be a real bargain if it shoots good!

My concern with synthetic stocks is the cheap feeling of them, anybody had their hands on a new accustock? How does it feel fit/finish and quality wise?
 
Bought two new higher end 700s in the last two years - both had action screw binding the bolt, neither had barrel centered in the channel but both shoot well.

Bought a Savage as well, bolt friendlier to take down, trigger easily adjustable, bolt head self alligning, shoots great.

At the same price point the Rems stocks aren't any better, both are available with HS or BC stocks at higher price points. Really not a bad choice between them.

If want detachable mag would opt for Accustock. If want rock solid either with HS or BC.
 
Savages are crude. Sure, some of them shoot, but it really isn't that hard to find a rifle that shoots. I've got 3 of the things sitting here so it's not like I'm picking on them for nothing.
Here's an example. One of my Savage rifles has an aftermarket stock, aftermarket barrel that gets rid of the crude lock ring. It has aftermarket trigger, and I shoot it as a singleshot so the crude magazine doesn't matter.The only part that is still Savage is the action, and that is enough crude for 3 rifles. I'm always amazed when I can sucessfully open and close the bolt without the sloppy, binding POS bolt falling out of the gun.
Martin's right, you can't fix the part they wrote Savage on.
 
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