Hey Dogleg, how old are your Savages? I think most of us are looking to see if the improvements in the last year or two are actually all they say they are.
Any thoughts on the new model Savage rifle with the Accu-stock?
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Hey Dogleg, how old are your Savages? I think most of us are looking to see if the improvements in the last year or two are actually all they say they are.
Why would you buy (and keep) three Savages if you ##### about them?
I like your style, you agree with me on Savage rifles AND you shot Geoffrey the Giraffe...lol
I have found the Savages to absolutely superbe. Way better bang (and by that I mean accurate and reliable) than the competition.
That said, my 700 is a decent rifle, though dollar for dollar, not as good a deal.
Just an observation - this thread is degenerating into a contest between those who love and those who hate the Savages. Given that neither side is going to change their opinion based on what others say, what's the point of this discussion?
That said, my 700 is a decent rifle, though dollar for dollar, not as good a deal.
Just an observation - this thread is degenerating into a contest between those who love and those who hate the Savages. Given that neither side is going to change their opinion based on what others say, what's the point of this discussion?
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Savage has the Accustock, no one else does. Therefor, for the purposes of this conversation, the Savage is superior.
(I own four. Flamesuit on!
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(I own four. Flamesuit on!
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That stock looks like a much needed improvement over the old synthetic stock. I'm happy with the two savage rifles I have, a 10MLII and a 300WM. They aren't refined looking, but they aren't crudely machined either. A clever simple design. They put the engineering where it counts, making an easy to build and assemble rifle that shoots accurately at a reasonable price. The design can't be that bad if the team Savage did well at Bisley.
Hmm I'd say that was just a unfortunate experience for you. Five of the fellows I hunt with use Savage and only Savage. A few of the rifles are abuse but are very accurate and haven't broke yet and of the two Savage rifles I've owned were well stellar!
personally, I'm curious to read any one elses first hand experience with a rifle before I'd be interested in buying one. Positive or negative. this thread has both.
I have a house full of guns, some I like more than others. That's just the way it is.
Wasn't even remotely unfortunate for me as I was busy hunting with a Sako, Kimber or Remington while my buddies were let down by there Savage POS rifles. They all used my old post 64 model 70 to kill a deer each, my hunts went down without a hitch because I used good equipment.
I've got a pre-accutrigger 111 in .300WM, and it's amazing. Reaches 300 yards very comfortably, with five shot three inch groups all day. Never had a single FTE, FTX, FTF or anything of any kind. Everything is solid on it, no loose or no flimsy parts of any kind. Positive, strong extractor, reliable plunger ejector, magazine assembly is fine, action and barrel are accurate, stock is comfortable.
That said, it's not pretty and it's not a smooth bolt.
WHO GIVES A SINGLE BLEEP? It's under MOA with FACTORY CHEAPO AMMO, it's reliable, extremely durable and well built.
The negatives in this thread are unheard of to me, it's like if the people that had problems take a hammer to their guns or something, I don't know.
That said, it's not pretty and it's not a smooth bolt.
WHO GIVES A SINGLE BLEEP? It's under MOA with FACTORY CHEAPO AMMO, it's reliable, extremely durable and well built.
The negatives in this thread are unheard of to me, it's like if the people that had problems take a hammer to their guns or something, I don't know.
I would be most concerned about mating aluminum to steel. There will be horrible corrosion issues if this is not separated.
My second thought is only one-tenth as serious as the first, but the amount of expansion for each degree of temperature rise is far higher for aluminum than steel. This may affect high temperature accuracy, but still may be far better than composite.
My second thought is only one-tenth as serious as the first, but the amount of expansion for each degree of temperature rise is far higher for aluminum than steel. This may affect high temperature accuracy, but still may be far better than composite.
I have 3 Savages, 1 of which is the 16FCSS. Mine is pre-accustock, but I bedded it and stiffened the forearm. I'm very happy with mine both as far as accuracy and reliability goes. Might I suggest a .270WSM Pharaoh2, unless you already have one.
For me I am looking for a walnut stocked rifle and blued action with a detachable magazine. I am really interested in rifles that have all steel parts including mags. I am of the mindset that plastic shouldn't be on guns in any way shape or form. When I pass these guns along to my kids 40 years from now it will be nice to look down on a slightly worn steel trigger guard or magazine.
My choices are Savage 114 American, Tikka T3 but too much plastic, Sako but too expensive, any others im missing here?
My choices are Savage 114 American, Tikka T3 but too much plastic, Sako but too expensive, any others im missing here?
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Finally someone posted some solid info to why an accustock is good or not. I had to look it up Galvanic Corrosion, very interesting stuff.
There must be a million rifles out there with aluminum bedding blocks. Doesn't seem to be any problems with them.
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https://www.cabelas.ca/index.cfm?pageID=71§ion=1187§ion2=1724&ID=4742
On the Cabela's Canada site linked above, there is a Rem 700 SPW. Special Purpose Walnut. I've never seen it anywhere else, not even on Remington's own website, but there it is. With a Detach Mag and all. This might fit your criteria, maybe.
I'm not convinced galvanic corrosion occurs that quickly where aluminum touches steel. Aluminum heads are common on cast iron blocks, 10-22's have steel bolts, fasteners and barrel in an aluminum receiver. In a relatively dry environment, not much happens.
