Any Threat to SKS Imports?

IM_Lugger said:
Crimea does have a lot of Russian people, also eople serving in the army there are mostly from the region too. Unlikely that they would do much. That move would not go over that well in Western part of Ukraine.

Check this out :

"Reports to Avakov indicate that over 5,000 Kalashnikov rifles, 2,741 Makarov handguns, 123 light machineguns and 12 Shmel rocket launchers were stolen from the Interior Troops’ depots in the Lvov Region in late February,”

"Some military experts believe that the weapons will soon surface in the hands of the Right Sector or other nationalistic movements, which were the violent driving force of the coup that ousted Victor Yanukovich."

http://rt.com/news/arms-stolen-ukraine-threat-006/
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This is not good source of information-Russian TV is overflowing with pure propaganda this days.You should see what they broadcasting in Russia-West is weak,### and any treat to Russia will end up with tanks in London and Washington will burn like Berlin in 1945
 
Prices will go up .... the U.S. has been paying more for them for years. I think the Lee-Enfield rifles are a good indicator of what might happen in terms of price for both the rifle and the ammo. However, part of the SKS's appeal is cheap ammo .... even if it's new production steel cased from Russia, Ukraine, China, etc . If those sources get cut off (and this appears to maybe be the case), we could see the dollar a round that it costs to feed the .303 these days and then you'd have to be a dedicated collector. Unless, the Bulgarians, Czechs, etc have a ton of 7.62x39.
 
coolzak said:
This is not good source of information-Russian TV is overflowing with pure propaganda this days.You should see what they broadcasting in Russia-West is weak,### and any treat to Russia will end up with tanks in London and Washington will burn like Berlin in 1945
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Ditto that! They are also saying that it's time to take back Alaska!....
 
As i already have a Norc SKS, my concern is factory ammo availability. We no longer have Chinese milsurp and Russian Barnaul is the main milsurp available now. We have Hungarian milsurp, but I wish we still had the Norc milsurp. Maybe I should investigate importing Norinco 7.62x39 milsurp ammo.... As long as hornady are still producing SST 7.62x39 ammo i am not too worried.
 
grelmar said:
Enfields were cheap throughout the 80's and into the 90s. It's really only in the last 10 years or so that the prices have started to climb. Really, it comes down to a matter of timing.

That being said... The Mosin/SKS/SVT glut we have right now in Canada is considered by many to be the last great surplus bonanza. Personally, I kinda doubt that. There will always be a "next great thing" in military arms, and that will create a surplus of the previous great thing.

Nonetheless, the Red Rifle gravy train will come to an end eventually. Trying to predict it beforehand is a bit of a muggins game. When it does run dry, the price will roller coaster for a decade or so, then do the slow inexorable climb that we're seeing with all the other WWII era milsurps. Don't forget, Garands used to be dirt cheap dime a dozen guns as well.
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Do not forget that UN make pressure to former communist countries to destroy old stockpile of guns.
 
cornelunc said:
Do not forget that UN make pressure to former communist countries to destroy old stockpile of guns.
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True that, and f@ck the UN... Which is what Russia and a lot of the former East Block nations are saying. Hopefully enough of them will stand up to the UN crap. It's a mis-guided policy on the UN's part, much the way all gun control policy is misguided.

It simply won't prevent arms getting into the hands of bad actor nations/groups, it just changes who gets paid. If you look at Syria, some of the rebel groups seem to be strangely uniformly armed with FN rifles (P90 and F2000 to be precise) - Something that gets brief mention by Western reporters who prefer to take photos of evil commblock rifles that they know their readerships will recognize.

Speaking of which, I need to start trolling the interwebs again for pics of some of the awesome home-brew SKS "sniper rifle" scope mount systems the Syrian rebels have been coming up with... You can really tell which of the rebel groups have outside funding, and which are scraping by with minimal resources. The funded groups are armed to the tits with FNs. The un-funded groups have left over commblock surplus.
 
Like I said main issue is NATO here and the new government of Ukraine. They will do anything to please EU. Why nobody reports how many weapons NATO has?
 
NRCan is more of a threat to imported surplus ammo than Putin's Crimean Adventure. In any case, there's lots of better 7.62 x 39 ammo loaded Stateside. Not cheap though. Reloading will fix your endless search for ammo. And it'll be better than any factory ammo.
NATO has no weapons. NATO is an alliance of nations. It's not an entity unto itself.
 
wojnar said:
- Russia does not export SKS because of UN treaty
- Ukraine is basically done
- The rest of ex-soviet republics never had bigger stock of them
- Poland none only drill rifles
- East German supply was sold off to Croatia and it made to US and Canada in early 2000s
- Albania all sold or destroyed
- Former Yugoslavia most 97% already sold
- The rest of former Warsaw Pact countries made a switch from Mosins straight to AK. SKS if any remind they are drill rifles

Only possible sources heavily used sks from Africa or South East Asia (think about what tropical weather does to guns?)
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seems pretty valid to me?!
 
whether its UN or EU , it doesn't make sense for Ukraine to hand over any weapons when they maybe be attacked , maybe after the dust settles they will .
 
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in the US is for a different reason . I believe its bcos Clinton banned the Russian SKS in some trade retaliation and it doesn't matter if the Russian SKS is coming from Russian , not allowed from anywhere , lets not give our government any ideas, lol.

City Boy said:
Prices will go up .... the U.S. has been paying more for them for years. .
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Curtton said:
in the US is for a different reason . I believe its bcos Clinton banned the Russian SKS in some trade retaliation and it doesn't matter if the Russian SKS is coming from Russian , not allowed from anywhere , lets not give our government any ideas, lol.
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Yes, it was the whole "Trade in Military Arms" legislation, IIRC... SKS's still make it into the U.S. for people with an NFA C&R license, but other than that, notsomuch. The prices down there are more reflective of the actual value of the rifle, compared to other semi-auto rifles - roughly $400-$500, last I looked, which places it in the middle of the pack as a "solid, reliable, basic semi auto" - which is what it is. And a reasonably good value at that price, IMHO, keeping in mind you can get a Garand in the US for < $700.
 
grelmar said:
Yes, it was the whole "Trade in Military Arms" legislation, IIRC... SKS's still make it into the U.S. for people with an NFA C&R license, but other than that, notsomuch. The prices down there are more reflective of the actual value of the rifle, compared to other semi-auto rifles - roughly $400-$500, last I looked, which places it in the middle of the pack as a "solid, reliable, basic semi auto" - which is what it is. And a reasonably good value at that price, IMHO, keeping in mind you can get a Garand in the US for < $700.
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Non-refurbs are going for MUCH more. $1200-1400 in some cases. Garands? $700 is about what they're worth. I wouldn't pay north of $1400 for one even if they were encrusted in diamonds.
 
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