Anybody carry finishing Shells?
- Thread starter Turkeyslayer 1300
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Thats what I'll probably resort too this year.
Stepping on the neck/head didn't work too well; nor did it feel too humane for myself.
jiminthecorner........backwards bullets
Have done a fair amount of testing with "reversed" bullets in the past few years.
Useing any gascheck cast bullet reversed minus the check gives you a nice semi-wadcutter like configuration which has proved fairly acccurate for me in my .30 cals and also in my 45/70 useing 500grn. Lee mold... all between 1000 and about 1200 fps.
In my .224' s and .30 cals any applicable FMJ boatail usually produces an exposed lead hollow base. When reversed it makes a large hollow point and you can easily still crimp in the cannelure if you wish and it will chamber/feed nicely. Non boattails must be seated a bit deeper!
These perform very well accuracy wise once you've decided on a reduced or full power load. Found accuracy in the 1300 fps range and kept loading higher, losing accuracy and then found again about 2000 fps and again at about 2500 fps. A bit beyond this point my .308 cases were giving pressure signs and testing ceased as case capacity had been reduced by inverting the bullet. In .224's about 2850 fps was reached with accuracy before pressure signs occured.
If you have ever shot thin mild steel plates at 100 yds with full power loads you know a .30 cal fmj. and many hunting rounds will punch through with a fair size "crater" impression. Reversed, the fmj will generally "punch" a caliber sized hole through the steel and it will go through thicker steel than if loaded point first.
........your mileage may vary
Have done a fair amount of testing with "reversed" bullets in the past few years.
Useing any gascheck cast bullet reversed minus the check gives you a nice semi-wadcutter like configuration which has proved fairly acccurate for me in my .30 cals and also in my 45/70 useing 500grn. Lee mold... all between 1000 and about 1200 fps.
In my .224' s and .30 cals any applicable FMJ boatail usually produces an exposed lead hollow base. When reversed it makes a large hollow point and you can easily still crimp in the cannelure if you wish and it will chamber/feed nicely. Non boattails must be seated a bit deeper!
These perform very well accuracy wise once you've decided on a reduced or full power load. Found accuracy in the 1300 fps range and kept loading higher, losing accuracy and then found again about 2000 fps and again at about 2500 fps. A bit beyond this point my .308 cases were giving pressure signs and testing ceased as case capacity had been reduced by inverting the bullet. In .224's about 2850 fps was reached with accuracy before pressure signs occured.
If you have ever shot thin mild steel plates at 100 yds with full power loads you know a .30 cal fmj. and many hunting rounds will punch through with a fair size "crater" impression. Reversed, the fmj will generally "punch" a caliber sized hole through the steel and it will go through thicker steel than if loaded point first.
........your mileage may vary
For ducks and geese, the hold head twist works MOST of the time, but sometimes does not, in wich case, I will either:
A, Slip their head into a bird carrier ( a liitle loops of wire for carrying birds) or if I don't have one, slip theiir head between two tigh branches on a tree.
B, Squeeze their lungs by either slipping the thumb and index finger under the wings neer the joint. (or just sit on them)
C, Cut the head off. (makes for a horrible photo though)
A, Slip their head into a bird carrier ( a liitle loops of wire for carrying birds) or if I don't have one, slip theiir head between two tigh branches on a tree.
B, Squeeze their lungs by either slipping the thumb and index finger under the wings neer the joint. (or just sit on them)
C, Cut the head off. (makes for a horrible photo though)
Yeah one guy I hunted with tried stepping on the head. It wasn't pretty.
I've only done it a couple of times but it's worked everytime for me. I guess I can be pretty ruthless though.
When I am using my 358 Win, I carry a few loose rounds in my pocket for grouse and finishing. They are a 158grJHP over 6 grains of Red Dot. Velocity is about 750fps and shoot point of aim to about 50 yards. Very easy to tell a stubby little HP from the 225G Partition hunting rounds.
I save my expensive high density shot for water swatting cripples. It really reaches out there and smacks them when they have fluttered down about 50-70 yards out. 2.75 #6 Hevishot for ducks and 3 inch # 4 for crippled geese. They have the density and the range to take them in the CNS and finish them.
