Anybody know what this is?

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Bullet dia. = .452
OAL = .825
Case length = .525

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RobSmith said:
Home-made semi jacketed bullet of some sort, rather than complete cartridge ?
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So you think I should put the point of a punch on bottom and wack it with a hammer just to see if there might be some kind of primer system and some powder hidden in such a way that no-one here has ever seen or heard of? In the interest of science. I'd wear safety glasses.
 
johnone said:
It looks like somebody's own swaging project.
John
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Have to agree with John, pistol bullet jackets were available from Hornady IIRC for home swaging, looks like somebody's version of a 45 bullet. Of course there are a few smaller companies that supply swaging equipment and components today as well, Corbin being the largest I think.
 
I'd agree with the previous posters. It's either a swaged bullet or a coffee thermos. Have you weighed it? What is the diameter of the copper part? Could it be a large bullet for a 45/70? It doesn't appear to have any nature of rim on it, so I don't think it's a complete cartridge, and if it does have a primer looking bottom on it, the pictures don't show it.
ETA the primer looking thing on the bottom, could be from the swaging process
 
Home made bullet for a .45 caliber. Since it is .452 probably for .45 ACP since .458 bullet are required for 45-70. If for .45 Long Colt it might be too small a diameter to be accurate since most .45LC like bullet in the .454 diameter.
 
I was flipping through "the history and development of small arms ammunition" vol. one and on page 192 it shows a completely rimless rimfire cartridge (Stahel 10.4x39mm, unknown rifle). The dimensions to yours are totally off, and its necked, but the concept could be the same.

no headstamping or anything on yours?
 
Stick it in a vice and hit it with a centre punch.:D Let us know what happens. Don't forget the welding helmet.
 
Janeau said:
Home made bullet for a .45 caliber. Since it is .452 probably for .45 ACP since .458 bullet are required for 45-70. If for .45 Long Colt it might be too small a diameter to be accurate since most .45LC like bullet in the .454 diameter.
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If it's jacketted, and the jacket is .452, it'd probably be a .45LC. .452 is usually only seen in 45acp, in lead bullets. It is an odd ball to be sure. What I want to know is if the 452 measurement is the lead part at the top, the jacketted part at the bottom, or consistant throughout. Also, I'd love to hear the weight. The weight should probably settle alot of questions, <=230 grains, usually 45 acp, >=250 grains, usually 45LC.
The OP hasn't been back to answer any questions lately. Perhaps poor results from whacking it with a hammer :eek:
 
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