Anyone able to help me figure out this happened and how to fix this on my SKS?

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So this happened to my SKS last weekend and I'm still stiuk with it.

I was using a Tapco mag which I've used previously with no issues. Norinco non-corrosive brass which I've also used before without any issue.

Basically, I put the mag in, charged it, pulled the trigger, and it went bang as it should but then this happened. It had went bang and hit steel so I knew it was safe and let is sit in the rack for a few minutes just in case.

I then used my cleaning rod and was able to bang it out with relative ease. Cleared everything, checked the bore, all good. Loaded the mag up again and chalked it up a freak round.

I charged it, pulled the trigger and it went bang and rang steel again and then it did not extract properly again. This time, after I let it sit etc, I could not for the life of me bang it out with my cleaning rod. I actually ended up bending it and it's been sitting like this since. Any help appreciated.

Basically I'm concerned that it happened twice in a row without any visible issues with the gun. I'm trying to figure out how to prevent this from happening again.

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noodlenottacop said:
Can do. I have a sledgehammer handy.

Any idea how to prevent this from happening again? Two in a row sketches me out.
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Did the extractor rip the rim on the case like that? Or was that you with a screwdriver?

If it's the latter, maybe you have an issue with your extractor or extractor spring. Aside from that I doubt it's the ammo, but I would clean the chamber real good and make sure it's free and clear.
 
jza said:
Did the extractor rip the rim on the case like that? Or was that you with a screwdriver?

If it's the latter, maybe you have an issue with your extractor. Aside from that I doubt it's the ammo, but I would clean the chamber real good and make sure it's free and clear.
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It was the extractor that did that to the case. Both times, same place. Thanks for the tip!
 
noodlenottacop said:
So this happened to my SKS last weekend ........... Norinco non-corrosive brass which I've also used before without any issue.
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First of all, are you sure your case is brass? Is this non-corrosive Norinco ammo from a white box? If so, it's a steel case not brass. Second, I have two Tapco SKS's and if I load a Tapco mag I always make sure that a cartridge is straight (not skewed in the mag) and firmly against the plastic back of the mag. Otherwise, I had similiar problems. Third, you may have some small obstacle in the throat of the barrel. Extract the stuck case with a solid wooden (or plastic) dowel and then carefully check the throat.
 
Put the receiver in the freezer over night. Then get a brass rod slightly bigger than a cleaning rod ( 1/4" or .250 ) And use tape to make supports, if it is loose ( also will help it bending ) It should still slip in the case mouth.
 
05RAV said:
First of all, are you sure your case is brass? Is this non-corrosive Norinco ammo from a white box? If so, it's a steel case not brass. Second, I have two Tapco SKS's and if I load a Tapco mag I always make sure that a cartridge is straight (not skewed in the mag) and firmly against the plastic back of the mag. Otherwise, I had similiar problems. Third, you may have some small obstacle in the throat of the barrel. Extract the stuck case with a solid wooden (or plastic) dowel and then carefully check the throat.
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I just assumed it was brass , to be honest. Yes, it was the white box stuff and I'll adjust accordingly. I appreciate that.

Thanks for the tips on the Tapco mags. They're new to me and this thing ran like a top with the factory mag.

Appreciate the rest of the info and will do.
 
OkayShooter said:
Put the receiver in the freezer over night. Then get a brass rod slightly bigger than a cleaning rod ( 1/4" or .250 ) And use tape to make supports, if it is loose ( also will help it bending ) It should still slip in the case mouth.
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This is a great tip and I'm going to do this with the freezer and give it a whirl with a wooden dowel first and then source a brass rod if that doesn't do the trick. Really appreciate the tip on the supports as well.
 
No experience with SKS, but have dealt with stuck cases. Nothing to do with your mag - the round fed into chamber. Either an overload, or you have pitting / serious scratches in your chamber - case swelled when fired and is now mechanically locked by something. 1/4" or so smooth steel rod, wraps of electrical tape every few inches to keep it straight and not rubbing on rifling - slide down barrel right into the fired case - gentle on the taps!!! Your gas system appeared to have operated totally normally - gas was bled off from barrel, action cycled like it should, but something about that case in your chamber has better hold on it than the extractor had. Good thing for you that the rim ripped off - probably saved your action parts from being broken.
 
Using a wooden dowel to try to drive out anything solidly stuck in a barrel is a really bad idea.
Steel or brass won't splinter. A broken, splintered rod jammed in the bore only increases the problem.
The likelihood of this case being stuck because of overpressure in a factory round is low.
Once you have driven out the stuck case, clean the chamber thoroughly and inspect it carefully for roughness.
 
Really bad idea to tap on a wooden dowel in the barrel - might get away with a hand push, maybe, but wood dowels tend to break on a long angle - creating two long wedges - a hammer tap then drives those wedges very very tightly together - get engraved by the rifling at the same time - now have two issues to deal with - a broken off and wedged wooden dowel is not an easy thing to get out, at all!!!
 
Another tip - when you have obtained a suitable metal rod, and are preparing to punch out the stuck case, how much of the rod is protruding from the muzzle? You don't want a lot. Only a couple or three inches is better than than a foot or more. Keeps the rod straighter and stiffer.
 
tiriaq and Potashminer, really appreciate this. I've just learnt a lot in a couple of short posts and I'm thankful for the willingness to share knowledge and help out. Will keep all those tips in mind and *not* use a wooden dowel as this case is seriously jammed in there.

Will extract (with those tips in mind), inspect and clean chamber thoroughly.

Thank you so much.
 
tiriaq said:
Using a wooden dowel to try to drive out anything solidly stuck in a barrel is a really bad idea.
Steel or brass won't splinter. A broken, splintered rod jammed in the bore only increases the problem.
The likelihood of this case being stuck because of overpressure in a factory round is low.
Once you have driven out the stuck case, clean the chamber thoroughly and inspect it carefully for roughness.
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All depends how "solidly stuck" is "solidly stuck". On a number of occasions I used a wooden dowel (I already have a few cut to the length). To prevent splitting it by the bullet tip I dropped in a plastic washer of an appropriate size. However, you might be right if something is really solidly stuck in the barrel a metal (brass) rod would be more appropriate. Still, better if it would be wrapped in plastic as others suggested.
 
05RAV said:
All depends how "solidly stuck" is "solidly stuck". On a number of occasions I used a wooden dowel (I already have a few cut to the length). To prevent splitting it by the bullet tip I dropped in a washer of an appropriate size. However, you might be right if something is really solidly stuck in the barrel a metal (brass) rod would be more appropriate. Still, better if it would be wrapped in plastic as others suggested.
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It's rammed in there hard. I was banging on it as hard as dared to with the cleaning rod and noticed it starting to bend, so I stopped. Banging hard enough that the action kept slamming forward, so I'm gonna do round three with a mag in to prevent that.
 
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