Anyone Bring home a Dewatt from Europe?

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SO long story short, I am in Germany for work, I have come across Un-obtainium, Starts with STG and ends in 44 for an amazing price, dewatt yes, but still it is what it is.

Has anyone ever brought a dewatt home with them? I am planning on shipping it with all RCMP dewatt info with it, photos of Dewatt etc,


Anyone done this? Advice?
 
im pretty sure you would have to send to directly to a place like marstar who would receive it like a live prohib, then they would perform any mods to make it deactivated to current canadian standards, welded up internals, trigger welded to trigger guard, etc and then you could take it
 
looked into this a year or so ago, it has to be imported as a live fire, once its imported it gets deactivated to Canadian standards.

the cost and paperwork to import was not worth it and for sure do not try to bring it thro check in luggage
 
Get some "Soap on a Rope" because you'll probably end up in the "Big House" with a cell mate named "Bubba".

ShooterMcGavin said:
SO long story short, I am in Germany for work, I have come across Un-obtainium, Starts with STG and ends in 44 for an amazing price, dewatt yes, but still it is what it is.

Has anyone ever brought a dewatt home with them? I am planning on shipping it with all RCMP dewatt info with it, photos of Dewatt etc,


Anyone done this? Advice?
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Customs says it has to be brought in as if live, and then certified dewat. But the CFC says a non-grandfathered import can only be for certain purposes like movies, museums, government sales. Deactivation is not an approved reason. So with that catch 22 the circle is complete, making it hard to import a dewat. Marstar has managed to bring some in lately, as did Serba a few years ago so it can be done.
 
Getting it out of Germany will be an issue too. The EU has extremely strict firearm export rules. I believe there are companies like IRGuns, et al who deal with this stuff though.
 
Technically if you could no mods have to be done in Canada. European deactivation basically makes it 40% more dead that Canadian deactivation. Wasn't Serba or sebaarms on the news few years ago when canada customs 2 containers of dewats with half of the items undeclared and not admissible to Canada. The gossip in Edmonton is that the current owner of seba went grey over night when he learned that his ex super crazy partner did not declare or put on the manifest half of the items in the containers.
 
erkner said:
Technically if you could no mods have to be done in Canada. European deactivation basically makes it 40% more dead that Canadian deactivation. Wasn't Serba or sebaarms on the news few years ago when canada customs 2 containers of dewats with half of the items undeclared and not admissible to Canada. The gossip in Edmonton is that the current owner of seba went grey over night when he learned that his ex super crazy partner did not declare or put on the manifest half of the items in the containers.
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how do you figure European dewats are 40% more deactivated than Canadian, European machine guns like MP40 and Thompsons will #### and click, can be stripped to almost every last part, actually seen the dewats there, nice jobs then here in Canada they are welded so much nothing moves, even a trigger is welded solid, think you have it the wrong way round
 
laurencen said:
how do you figure European dewats are 40% more deactivated than Canadian, European machine guns like MP40 and Thompsons will #### and click, can be stripped to almost every last part, actually seen the dewats there, nice jobs then here in Canada they are welded so much nothing moves, even a trigger is welded solid, think you have it the wrong way round
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True, I was staying in the UK with a fellow with LOTS of dewats and they could be taken apart no where near the amount of crazy cutting and welding done to a RCMP approved dewat. Now I will let Tacfoley or others from the UK explain old and new (UK) dewat rules.
 
There is no 'European' standard, and various countries have had different standards at different times. The current one here (not retroactive) requires the breechblock to be welded onto the body. This is a complex subject which varies somewhat with firearm configuration.
 
unless you have a dealers licence for import and a gunsmith on this end to sign off on it ,forget it.
Customs will sieze it and charge you with out the right paper work. and as most of them have no idea about firearms and laws .
be prepared for them to send the RCMP to your house for a search and sieze there also.
this happen to a good friend of mine when he shipped a barrel for a converted auto.
cost him $40,000 in lawyers fees to clear it up.
 
I know it is difficult or perhaps impossible for an individual to import a dewat from Europe, but I can certainly see why the OP is asking the question when you look at the prices and availability.
Here is one example, that sells for 389 euros (approx. $545 Cdn):
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OK I had to add one more example, A PPsH 41 for 149 euros (approx. $209 Cdn):
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Only way I see it being possible for an average person is to have the deactivation completed and approved by a canadian that can approve it before import...
 
Yeah,, I in contact with Customs and a couple dealers, it is 150 Euro,for a STG 44, in germany. Worth looking into, but the helmet and pins i already have are epic, and if my source pans out lots more hard to find stuff too. Thanks for all the 'advice'

And Klunk,, you are so right, I have an emial coming your way with some things you may interested in,
 
While there are those that hate the idea of Dewating a "live" gun, and note I am certainly NOT a big fan of the process I do see they serve a purpose within the firearms owning/collecting community. I am forever scratching my head as to why venders are not going thru and working the system to its fullest to supply the demand for these collectables here.
 
XRCD011 said:
While there are those that hate the idea of Dewating a "live" gun, and note I am certainly NOT a big fan of the process I do see they serve a purpose within the firearms owning/collecting community. I am forever scratching my head as to why venders are not going thru and working the system to its fullest to supply the demand for these collectables here.
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there's not the big of a market here considering that there is plenty of 12.x owners there's still a market for live but for those who own 12.x guns that can't be handed down id think about deactivating them later on better that then the smelter
 
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