Anyone else hate their Norinco M93?

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Man I hate this little POS.

After a trip to my gunsmith it still fails to #### the hammer just about every magazine.

It has shot a full magazine twice without a hiccup. The rest of the time lots of failure to #### hammer.

Before smithing, it was a bump fire delight.

I think I prefered it when it was bump firing:p

I might de-activate it and use it for martial arts training. At least it'll be usefull.

I realize that I probably got a lemon and that it can happen to any manufacturer but it has made me very leery about buying more Norinco handguns.

Anyone else hate this pistol?
 
Was it a Marstar sale? If its within reason, they will replace it. Certainly worth an inquiry to them. I guess if it was a Lever, you may be screwed, but it doesnt hurt to ask. I know there are a lot of folks out there who have them and opiniions vary from luv 'em to POS..
Sorry to hear about it but good luck getting it resolved.
Cheers:)
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Mine's been great. She's had about 1k. At the start i had light primer strikes, but that was because of a dirty firing pin.

I do find when I fire 200+ rds in a shoot it starts to fling crud from the breech at my face. Carbon that flakes up and gets flicked with the recoiling slide.
 
If the hammer doesn't ####, it could be:
-ammunition isn't reliably kicking the action open. Try other cartridges, clean the pistol, see if there is something dragging & keeping the slide from opening freely. Are you using hi-speed?
-or, the hammer is cocking, but slipping off the sear. A mechanical problem? Bad sear, hammer notch? Sear spring? Fouling in the mechanism?
 
tiriaq

It cocks everytime by pulling the slide back half an inch sot the sear and hammer notch are OK.

It seems to do it with all ammo but I should check that again. Thanks.
 
Mine was a reliable little shooter. Didn't put a whole lot of rounds through it, but it was cheap, reasonably accurate, and went bang everytime I pulled the trigger.

Only con was it was a bit of a pain in the a$$ to reassemble if you pulled the spring out of the slide.. that and the finish had some very sharp edged.

But, decent pistol for the price. I'd have no problem recomending one for a <$200 pistol brand new.
 
I just recomend to people to buy a quality made gun from a quality manufacturer. I can buy my kids a dollar store toy guns,but I'm not going to buy one for myself :p
Maybe it's working fine for some guys, but a great gun like a CZ 75 is only
$ 600.00, ya it's not $200 (if that's what it's for ?) but $600 is cheap man,
you can't save a few extra bucks for your hobby ?
I'm financially challenged too, but I'll kick in the few extra bucks for a descent product. If you still don't want to spend $600, than just search for a used quality gun. I got my Colt 1991A1 .45 for only $535.00 (in 1993), but still some good deals out there.
don't rush & buy the first crap that comes your way.

My 2 cents
 
colt45gunner said:
I just recomend to people to buy a quality made gun from a quality manufacturer. I can buy my kids a dollar store toy guns,but I'm not going to buy one for myself :p
Maybe it's working fine for some guys, but a great gun like a CZ 75 is only
$ 600.00, ya it's not $200 (if that's what it's for ?) but $600 is cheap man,
you can't save a few extra bucks for your hobby ?
I'm financially challenged too, but I'll kick in the few extra bucks for a descent product. If you still don't want to spend $600, than just search for a used quality gun. I got my Colt 1991A1 .45 for only $535.00 (in 1993), but still some good deals out there.
don't rush & buy the first crap that comes your way.

My 2 cents
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Ditto... I'll bet you could find a used Ruger Mark 2 or Browning Buckmark for around the same price. Parts and mags are available for real guns from reputable manufacturers and don't require dremeling or trips to the gun smith to work out of the box!!
 
Well, I got mine from a fellow on the Mainland who referred to it as a POS. So he sold it to me for $75 :)
As he bought it at Lever instead of Marstar, he felt he was out of luck.

It is an annoying little bastard sometimes (especially with American Eagle .22 ammo) but with Thunderbolts it's mostly reliable. It is by no means a Ruger (which is what I'd recommend for a newbie) but for me, I'll put up with annoyances for what little it cost. I also agree that it has lots of edges on the grip and magazines...
 
Had mine for over a year, with Winchester Woldcat or Super-X, it was a real jam-O-matic (failure to feed, fire and eject, you name it), but was reliable to feed, fire and eject Remmy Thunderbolts.

For the price, this gun ain't half bad, but as we say, you get what you pay for. A 100$ gun will never compete with a 4-500$ gun
 
i've found a couple of tricks for the 93- 1 use the ammo by the brick- walmart dynapoints if you can get em, then federals- i don't know from the experts or wildcats yet- 2 if it doesn't fire the first time out, try rotating the round in the chamber so the pin hits in a different spot- that works a lot of the time- i think that 22 ammo tends to acquire a "dead" spot in the primer and won't work if you hit it just there- also some brands are harder than others and require more of a hit -
if it still doesn't work, feed it to an EXTERNAL HAMMER DRIVEN gun- that way you can get an easy double whack - i'm on my at least 6th or 7th brick and had very few fails, mostly it's the ammo
 
"For the price, it ain't bad..."

Man, I am SO sick of hearing comments like that about Norincos. Okay, I haven't personally owned or even shot a M93... Just the 1911A1, and an M-305 (allegedly two of Nork's "better" copies of real firearms).

A crappy gun that fails to function is a crappy gun that fails to function! I don't care if it cost you $5 in comparison to an original at $1000... IF IT DOESN'T WORK, have you really gained anything but frustration?

Sorry to go off on a rant here, but it seems like every time someone has a (well justified) negative criticism of Norinco, there's a chorus of "Gun snob! Gun snob! Not everyone can afford a (insert brand name here) you know!!"

I say save your money for another paycheque or two, and invest in a used QUALITY firearm. You WILL be much more satisfied.

And as for those who say "At least inexpensive Norincos get new shooters out there", I say BS: The Norinco 1911 nearly convinced my wife to get out of shooting all together, it was such a frustrating experience for her.

Luckily, she is now saving for a real handgun, after having had the opportunity to test drive and fire a few other pistols (THANKS SIX STAR!!).

Rant mode off.

Time for a second cup of coffee.

Flame suit on!!!
 
My M93 is still going strong after about 4,000 rounds, The rear sight is a little loose now, still fun and I'm thinking of scoping it now.

As for spending the money on "name-brand" guns, if I had a buck for every Springfield, Remington or Colt I've heard about that had serious quality control isuses, I'd by myself another Norinco.
I know a fellow, right now, who paid $2100 for a Springfield M1A, after about 200 rounds the trigger mech packed it in (from how he descibed it, it sounds like the hammer broke at the sping 'pocket'), he's been waiting over a year (more than 365 days) for the warranty work to be done!
Instead he could have bought 3 Norincos and a case of ammo.
 
Norinco's have been very good to me!

I have something over seven thousand rounds (I keep track of thousand lots of primers) through my "raced up" Norinco 1911A1 and I can count the number of FTF's with this gun on one hand - all were apparently due to out of spec reloads. It has worked beautifully since day one, and now is even more accurate and as "smooth as glass" due to the experience it has, and some mods I've done to it. I paid $225 for it brand new a few years back, spent some more on parts, and learned a heck of a lot about 1911's in the process.

It's where I got my handle! :)
 
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