Anyone else not using there 300WM

Traded my 300 WSM in on a .308win........ 10x better


I use my .270 win as replacement for the WSM, which was intended for out to the 400m mark.. the 27- is knockin em over just nicely.
that 308 is much more tame Critter..... lightweight an Love it!


WSM had too much powder for me.

Cheers!

WL
 
I prefer my pre 64 model 70 .300 H+H or my FN Browning Safari in .308 Norma magnum.I can load up or down..........Harold
 
There, their, they're. All different meanings.
No magnums of any kind in my house. Magnum are the most successful marketing scam in history. There is no game animal in North America that requires a magnum to kill.
 
if you ever decide to sell the 284, please let me know. I love Browning Micros and don't have one in 284.
I hear you on that one two-dogs, the 284 is hard to find. It was the first rifle I bought for myself and I'm sort of attached to it. Mine has been hunted with and looks the part. If I decide to sell it, you will be the first to know. cheers pete
 
I'm taking my .308 out this fall instead of a .300 mag, just because I love that particular rifle and it has seen lots of range time, but no hunting.

I do use a .300 mag quite a bit when I'm hunting in places where shots can be anywhere from 10 M to 500 M and I can get the benefit of flatter trajectory and increased penetration at range, over 308/30-06 class rifles, with the flatter trajectory being the biggest factor for me.
 
I must agree , label something accordingly and people will buy.

Mustang LX 5.0L or GT Cobra? Which is faster? Who wants what?

There, their, they're. All different meanings.
No magnums of any kind in my house. Magnum are the most successful marketing scam in history. There is no game animal in North America that requires a magnum to kill.
 
There, their, they're. All different meanings.
No magnums of any kind in my house. Magnum are the most successful marketing scam in history. There is no game animal in North America that requires a magnum to kill.

There are times when a flat trajectory is beneficial, and a slippery 180 at 3000 fps, is then preferable to a 150 at 3000 fps. There are other times when big power might not be necessary, but is certainly comforting. For a hunter who travels the world in search of trophies, next to a .375, a .300 is almost a prerequisite, and in a fine rifle, with good ammunition is just enough more than the '06 to get the nod. That is, it would get the nod if you're willing to carry a rifle that's just a little longer and a bit heavier. I've been a fan of the .300s (Weatherby, H&H, and Winchester) since my teens, have shot more than a few of them, but when it came time to lay down my money, I always went in another direction, and to me the darlings of the .30s is an '06. Interestingly, a true magnum cartridge, but was never advertised as a magnum, is the .416 Rigby.

I'm not anti, magnum, by any means. But my first magnum rifle, was a magnum in name only, a .350 Remington, when what I wanted was a .340 Weatherby. But the $300 for a new Mk-V or a Japanese Golden Eagle in .338 was so far out of reach in those days, they might as well have cost a million, as was any custom rifle, the only other way to acquire a .340. While Remington had plans for a new 8mm magnum, they didn't chamber the .338 in the M-700. The folks who I looked up to as knowledgeable in those days, were still stinging from the changes made to the M-70 and warned me off Winchester, so there would be no M-70 until much, much later in life. I could have chosen a Ruger, but a pal who owned one in .270 was bragging up a 6" group he shot with his at 200, and I was underwhelmed with the performance. Certainly I had heard of the .358 Norma, but had never laid eyes on one. Hence the .350, which was claimed to be a ballistic twin of the highly touted .35 Whelen, but wasn't quite.
 
"Magnum" is just a word, it doesn't mean anything. Would everybody be badmouthing the .30-06 if it had been called the .300 Springfield Magnum because it was bigger than the .30-30 Win?
 
"Magnum" is just a word, it doesn't mean anything. Would everybody be badmouthing the .30-06 if it had been called the .300 Springfield Magnum because it was bigger than the .30-30 Win?

Yeah, probably. On the other hand, which of the two has taken more deer? Actually, open up that question a bit - which cartridge has taken more deer than any other? Yup, the anemic, rainbow-trajectory, 120-year-old, designed-for-black-powder .30/30. Bambi is so dumb that he doesn't die any deader when shot with this antique than with the latest-and-sparkliest ultra-magnum. It's almost insulting.
 
Yeah, probably. On the other hand, which of the two has taken more deer? Actually, open up that question a bit - which cartridge has taken more deer than any other? Yup, the anemic, rainbow-trajectory, 120-year-old, designed-for-black-powder .30/30. Bambi is so dumb that he doesn't die any deader when shot with this antique than with the latest-and-sparkliest ultra-magnum. It's almost insulting.

22lr has taken a lot of deer and is just as relevant as your post.
 
Yeah, probably. On the other hand, which of the two has taken more deer? Actually, open up that question a bit - which cartridge has taken more deer than any other? Yup, the anemic, rainbow-trajectory, 120-year-old, designed-for-black-powder .30/30. Bambi is so dumb that he doesn't die any deader when shot with this antique than with the latest-and-sparkliest ultra-magnum. It's almost insulting.


The 30-30 was designed for smokeless powder not black-powder.
 
I pick the gun from the cabinet that matches the tags in my pocket and the terrain I'm going to hunt in.
This is my opinion, as well.
A short-range push through the brush? Lee Enfield Calvary Carbine, sported, with a .3145" 200gn bullet that chugs along at ~2000fps.
An open area, short-range (here that means around 100yds or so) maybe a walk thrown in. Morning? Savage 340 in .30-30 with 150gn spitzer bullets. Afternoon? Remington 799 in x39mm with 150gn spitzers (it's scoped so better light).
My wife grabs her Savage 11 in .243 for deer, but that's all she hunts.
My son always grabs an Enfield. I loved them when I was young, too.
I no longer shoot 600yds with my '06, but it still gets the nod for any hunt I am not sure of distances up to 400 yds or so (lots of very open terrain here) I'll find or if I HAVE to drop it, like when driving 6 hours each way for a week-long elk hunt. Perhaps there are too many in the locker.
Since I got drawn for none of my tags this year, maybe I should just hunt the Enfields for deer, but not for elk. Might be the right time to unsaddle that P-14 I got blown out to .303 Imp...
 
They are both great rounds, I wince a bit inside when I see an inexperienced hunter toting a 300 Win Mag.

For most hunters in N America the 30-06 is all that is needed with cheaper ammo and less recoil. I use a 30-06 and sometimes think of settling into a .260 rem or Swede round.
 
sunray;1161881} Magnum are the most successful marketing scam in history. There is no game animal in North America that requires a magnum to kill.[/QUOTE said:
I agree, tha'ts why I use a .375 RUGER and not the marketing scam 375 H&H Magnum.
 
I agree, tha'ts why I use a .375 RUGER and not the marketing scam 375 H&H Magnum.

Zing!!!;). My point exactly. One cannot be accused of suffering from magumtitis if they are hunting with a .375 Ruger since it's not a magnum (doesn't say magnum in the name so it can't be one, right?) compared to someone with a .375 H&H Magnum ( even though the Ruger has a larger case).
 
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