Anyone ever successfully hunt a Bison? What caliber did you use?

[medvedqc]

What powder are they using? - dan

the surprise is the kind of powder they re using to reach it. i will open one case and submit it here.

 

[dan belisle]

the surprise is the kind of powder they re using to reach it. i will open one case and submit it here.

Hence my question. Thank you. - dan

 

[blakeyboy]

that is curious on the 2652 fps rating with 180 ttsx from the nuge

most 2600 fps 180gr factory loads land 2702 ft/lbs, the hornady superformance 165cx which arguably would be one helluva stout penetration option is 2750 fps and 2771 ft/lbs as about the next closest thing I can think of (they don't do superformance 180's in 308 but I was curious what that hot option did put out for ft/lbs...it's close but still not over 2800)

does hand loading make it easier to get 180's up to 2650 fps in 308?

 

[dgradinaru]

I'd imagine super performance or RE 17 powder could get you into that FT-lb range with a 24" barrel. Which puts the velocity in around 2650-2660 fps to get 2800 ft-lbs.

 

[medvedqc]

What powder are they using? - dan

double tap refused to answer that question by a laconic: proprietary information. stay tuned i will post powder sample and see what can be found ...

 

[struff55]

I shot 5 bison back in the 90's on a cull hunt 30-06 180 gr bullet 80-12( yds one shot kills

 

[skokie]

In the process of booking an Alberta Bison Hunt for next year, 1000 to 1400lbs meat bull. Talking to the guide, I told him I have a .325wsm 220 gr at 2800+ fps and a .45-70 with 405gr Hardcast at 1800 fps. He told me the shots are usually 150 yards or less, and reacted to my two rifle choices with " those'll work." So I assume they are enough medicine, with proper placement of course.

 

[diemaco]

double tap refused to answer that question by a laconic: proprietary information. stay tuned i will post powder sample and see what can be found ...

I didn't know DoubleTap loaded the Nugent ammo. I bought a box of their .308 loaded with Accubonds years ago that was loaded VERY HOT. Stiff bolt lift and flattened primers. I never shot the whole box.

 

[Northern Shooter]

In the process of booking an Alberta Bison Hunt for next year, 1000 to 1400lbs meat bull. Talking to the guide, I told him I have a .325wsm 220 gr at 2800+ fps and a .45-70 with 405gr Hardcast at 1800 fps. He told me the shots are usually 150 yards or less, and reacted to my two rifle choices with " those'll work." So I assume they are enough medicine, with proper placement of course.

What kind of price range are those hunts running for in N Alberta? How many days?

 

[hawk-i]

If I ever manage to get a BC Bison draw, I'll take my Ruger African (416 Ruger), with 400gr Partitions.

 

[Pete04]

If I ever manage to get a BC Bison draw, I'll take my Ruger African (416 Ruger), with 400gr Partitions.

Good choice.
I'd do the same with mine.

 

[skokie]

What kind of price range are those hunts running for in N Alberta? How many days?

Found one north of Edmonton, 3 day hunt,1000-1400lbs Bull guaranteed and use of a cabin. Cow hunts were $3k and Trophy size bulls more like $8k.

 

[stubblejumper]

A friend killed a huge bull in Northern Alberta a week ago. Because it isn't legal to use his 7mmremmag, he borrowed his brothers 338winmag. 100 yard shot, bull dropped at the shot. He waited 5 minutes walked up 20 yards, and the bull stood up, so he gave it another shot, and it dropped for good. His bull was 2000+lbs , and was taken on a draw tag. He looked over many bison before taking the largest bull that he saw on the trip.

 

[john-brennan]

I was fortunate to get a leh and I used a .338 with a 250gr speer grand slam a great bullet for that size of animal

 

[pathfinder76]

I’ve killed three. Two with the 7mm Mashburn and one with the 280 Rem.

 

[BigUglyMan]

If I ever manage to get a BC Bison draw, I'll take my Ruger African (416 Ruger), with 400gr Partitions.

If I ever get the chance to shoot another I think I'll be using my 1885 with cast bullets and black powder.

 

[MiG25]

If I ever get the chance to shoot another I think I'll be using my 1885 with cast bullets and black powder.

Obviously there are other Juristicions, but I don't think the 45-70 (assuming that's what you got) can even meet BC's requirements using Blackpowder.

 

[skokie]

Obviously there are other Juristicions, but I don't think the 45-70 (assuming that's what you got) can even meet BC's requirements using Blackpowder.

I wanted to debate that, but even my Sharp's with the Lee Spire Point cast at 525gr, BC .443, and a muzzle velocity of 1375fps with FFFG is only 1850ft/lbs at 100 yards. I don't doubt it can do the job, but legal it ain't. (Not advocating a lead spire point for hunting.)

 

[Northern Shooter]

I wanted to debate that, but even my Sharp's with the Lee Spire Point cast at 525gr, BC .443, and a muzzle velocity of 1375fps with FFFG is only 1850ft/lbs at 100 yards. I don't doubt it can do the job, but legal it ain't. (Not advocating a lead spire point for hunting.)

I know that Yukon states a minimum caliber restriction of a 180grain 30cal bullet producing a minimum of 2,800ft-lbs of muzzle energy (30.06).

What are the requirements for BC or other jurisdictions where you can hunt Bison? AB? NWT?

Edit: I did some googling.

NWT just requires a 30cal minimum, no energy requirements.

AB - Looks like they use the same as YT, 30cal, 180grain, 2,800ft-lbs at the muzzle.

BC - Minimum of 175gr projectile, that retains 2,800Joules (2,000ft-lbs) at 100m. This is a lower standard than what YT and AB follow.

So it looks like .308 and heavy 7mm cartridges are good to go in BC where as it wouldn't make the cut in the others.

 

[BigUglyMan]

I know that Yukon states a minimum caliber restriction of a 180grain 30cal bullet producing a minimum of 2,800ft-lbs of muzzle energy (30.06).

What are the requirements for BC or other jurisdictions where you can hunt Bison? AB? NWT?

NWT is 30 caliber minimum. No bullet weight or energy restriction.