Anyone going to the Frosty Farky last weekend of Sept?

Well, that's done.
I had some ammunition loaded up in neck turned brass from last year so I decided it would suffice for test ammo. It was loaded with 150 grain Sierras ahead of 4895 and the seating depth was about right for this chamber.
Conditions today are not great for testing ( I wanted to throw an excuse out there right away). It has rained lightly and is now sunny. The wind is fishtailing ENE to ESE at from 5-10 mph (my range faces east). Mirage is very, very heavy.
I started out at 100 yd. I boresighted on the target and fired a shot. This hit at about 7 o'clock, 3/4 inch low. Good enough. I moved to another target and fired a 5 shot group. It looked pretty good and measured out OK at .241".
Of course 100 yd groups don't mean much when prepping for a 300 meter shoot so I clicked it up 5 1/2 moa and moved to the 300 meter distance. Here, the mirage was way too heavy to have any chance of seeing bullet holes so I was shooting blind. I allowed about 1 1/2 moa for the wind which was now pretty steady at ENE and fired my 5 shots holding in what I hoped was the appropriate spot for each shot. When I walked up to the target I discovered that I had under estimated the wind by a full minute but had been fairly consistent in this. I had four shots in .720" with one out to the right by two inches. If I had managed to center the group in the 300 meter "X", that shot would have been a 10 at best. Nonetheless, the rifle shows a certain amount of potential and should do better with a little load development. The vertical dispersion was only .7".
I like to do my load developement when conditions are calm and clear (early morning or late evening. To heck with the neighbours!). I want to be certain of the rifle's capabilities before I start practice. Today I shot from the bench but from now on will shoot prone from a rest. Time's short. Regards, Bill.
 
What size targets are used for the Frosty guys? There are lots of SR 300 targets...

6 Bull HBR 300 yd with a 1.5" 10 ring and a .16" x
ISSF ISU target with a 100mm (3.93700787") X ring
DCRA 300M with a 3.125" V bull
The new hardest one, the 300yd MR-63FC US FClass target with a 1.42" X ring

There are probably a lot more 300 yd and 300M targets out there.

If it was just not so far away ........ 822 miles for me one way, and if I had a place to sleep for free (i.e., a friend that lives in Kamloops were I could sleep on his floor with my sleeping bag or a clubhouse at the range) I'd be really tempted since I'm not on call for once.

I see it is a good 400+ miles for you too Bill. You need a good competitive range closer to you bud... what I'm I saying, you have one, even with gophers... just needs more firing points Bill and we will come... Ha.

Keep 'em group centered Billy,
Keith
 
Bill, sounds like a defrippulator to me. I used my defrippulator last weekend at the Alberta Palma and it worked fine. This one could double as dereibenizer and an unandersonizer too.

I'm still not sure what I'm bringing. Can't find plaid spraypaint for the stock on the unwinfieldizer. Was out earlier to try a few things with the 6mm and got one stuck. Stuck real good. Had to pull the barrel and use channel locks on the case rim. No damage done except for the case. Now I'll do the full size resize like I thought was done. Start again tomorrow.

Keith, seems to me the X ring on the target at Kamloops is an inch and a quarter.

Have to get through the PPRA first and try a bunch of stuff out there. I think I need another rifle. Things aren't complicated enough yet to expand the excuse list.

Cheers, Glen
 
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X ring 2" with 1 1/4" Marker
10 ring 4"
9 ring 6"
8 ring 8" (for those of us that need the room :D)

Here is a pic of the wear center we use.

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Kieth,
It is actually the ISSF target with 100mm 10 ring and 50mm X. It's one of those targets which, at first glance, doesn't look that tough and, if one were able to shoot it like hunter class, with only 5 shots to score and unlimited sighters, it wouldn't be. "F" class isn't hunter BR though and there are 20 shots and no going back to a sighter to confirm or quantify wind drift. When this target is shot clean (200-20X) regularly, we might have to look at a tougher target. I don't think this is all that likely although we will all try and some will succeed occasionally.
On my range yesterday, shooting those 150 Sierras, drift was about 2 1/2 moa either side of center during the course of my shooting 20 shots. When your scoring shots are your only verification of wind/mirage, you risk dropping a point at any time.
Today I'll be trying the first loads tailored to this particular rifle. Bullets will be Sierra 168 and 155. Powders will be 4895, Varget, N135. Actually I expect 4895 to work well enough I won't have to mess with the others.
Glen,
The finish isn't really all that nice. In fact, the whole outfit borders on crude. I'm on a limited budget! Regards, Bill.
 
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"F" class isn't hunter BR though and there are 20 shots and no going back to a sighter to confirm or quantify wind drift. Bill.

Actually the format is going to be 5 + 15 the first relay and then 2 + 15 for the remainder.
If Mark formats this the same as the Sierra Shoot then for your first relay you can decide before shooting that you either want 2 convertibles or your taking all 5 sighters. (No conversions if you say your taking your 5)

There are just too many people participating to allow unlimited sighters for first relay, as it stands I believe we worked it out last night to 6hrs or more of non-stop shooting to get all the participants through their relay's on Saturday allowing 20minutes per person per relay. That does not include giving the target pullers a 1/2hr break to eat and rest for a bit. They get ornery when we don't let them eat and start marking 7's and 8's to show their disapproval :D

Richard
 
If you decide to only have 2 sighters that are convertible, do you have to convert both or none? Or can you choose what you want to convert - one or both?

There was a bit of confusion last year with some relays allowing a shooter to convert the best sighter (either of 2 shots) if desired. Other relays, you had to take both or nothing.

Just want to clarify so we are all on the same playing field.

Thanks,

Jerry

PS is I understand F class targets, the 'smaller' targets are now MOA for the 10 ring and 1/2 MOA for the X. The target used is a smidge bigger but still a very demanding target given the spooky conditions Kamloops can dish up.
 
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If you decide to only have 2 sighters that are convertible, do you have to convert both or none? Or can you choose what you want to convert - one or both?

There was a bit of confusion last year with some relays allowing a shooter to convert the best sighter (either of 2 shots) if desired. Other relays, you had to take both or nothing.

Just want to clarify so we are all on the same playing field.

Thanks,

Jerry

PS is I understand F class targets, the 'smaller' targets are now MOA for the 10 ring and 1/2 MOA for the X. The target used is a smidge bigger but still a very demanding target given the spooky conditions Kamloops can dish up.

For the Sierra you could convert the just second sighter or both sighters. You could not convert your first without the second.

I am not 100% sure that this is going to be the same format, I am sure Mark will clarify on the Saturday morning before the shoot.

Anyone want to have a CGN breakfast at the Versatile? (Petro-Can near the range)
We could all meet at 6:30, have breakfast and be at the range at 8....

Respond here if your for it.

Richard
 
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OK....I got my cheapo spotting scope in the mail today but my stand is on it's way and is NOT going to be here in time for me to use it. :kickInTheNuts:

Is anyone bringing a "backup" spotter stand with a swivel or saddle head that I could possibly use for the shoot? :redface:

TIA
Richard

Oh yeah....breakfast at Petro-Can Sat at 7:45 :D
 
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For the Sierra you could convert the just second sighter or both sighters. You could not convert your first without the second.

I am not 100% sure that this is going to be the same format, I am sure Mark will clarify on the Saturday morning before the shoot.

Yes, this is the standard practice at KTSA matches. The 5 sighters are all or nothing

Anyone want to have a CGN breakfast at the Versatile? (Petro-Can near the range)

I'll be there, but at 7:45... :)
 
Gent's it just doesn't matter a rats bum. Just point and shoot. They'll tell you when you've had enough sighters. Remember, there'll be 30 other guy's standing behind you waiting their turn.

Just got in and I'm supposed to be finishing the days Reports. Damn, I can't concetrate on work anymore. Double Damn, it's as cold here as it was in Leduc when I left. See you in the morning. Bring lots of rounds. By the time everyone figures out the sighter thing, you'll probably be down a bunch.

Cheers, glen
 
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