Anyone had luck getting a license to carry?

Geof said:
What about packing an antique with a police letter. From what I'm reading, it appears that it is legal to do so. Can anyone confirm this?
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Yes a pre 1898 handgun, holstered in plain view(not concelealed) in centerfire or rimfire calibers not on the no go list(ie not 45colt, 44-40, 22rf see the regulations for the rest)would technically be legal from a firearms act perspective. Despite the presence of an antique status letter a conservation officer or any other LEO may have some other interpretation of the laws such as as hunting with a handgun or whatever.

This is fresh ground for most LEOs/prosecutors and the frequent default position is when in doubt confiscate and arrest. I once had a conversation with a crown attorney who was completely convinced that such a scenario had some fault, he even thought my antique handgun would be considered concealed because my holster had a flap. His contention was that if his intent was to truely prosecute he would find a way to do it. He is probably wrong but it would take quite abit of my money to prove him wrong.

The other problem with most handguns in general is unless your are packing something like a modern 454 casull you best not be looking for trouble with a determined grizzly. Yes, better than a pointy stick but marginally. If you really expect trouble in the wilderness stick with 12 gauge slugs or decent rifle caliber. If you just want to carry a holstered antique in the bush and plink, go for it.
 
I've personally seen a pissed off grizzly in action, in real life. From what I observed, even with a gun you don't stand much of a chance if the bear is mad enough. I knew a trapper who came up on a grizzly with a fresh kill. He only happened to be walking with his 303 with a chambered round and safety not on. He told me that if he had the safety on, he would have not had the time to take it off and shoot the charging animal. Personally, I wouldn't feel safe with only a handgun in the bush.
 
I agree with mkrainc, not much will stop a charging bear, probably not a handgun...Even if you are extremely skilled and prepared.

I think that a handgun would simply calm you into a false sense of security.

When it comes to mountain biking in bear country, all I can say is...pedal faster :p

Cheers,
Sand
 
I dont know about alberta but I know a guy hear in BC who has one but it is because he has a prospector licence.
 
How about a concerted group effort to have the carry law amended? Maybe its time for a petition.:D

To me it makes no sense to issue carry permits to anyone who wants to carry in a city, town, village, or even on their small acreage. But for those living on a larger piece of land in a rural or forested area, it makes a lot of sense.

The carry permit should only apply for an area where large wildlife actually presents a hazard. Some years ago, bear attacks killed two people not far from where we live. We also have cougars roaming the forest around here. I carry bear spray and occasionally tote a rifle, but a handgun would be so much more effective than bear spray and easier to carry than a rifle. A shot into the ground in front of a bear likely will cause it to back off; I have seen that work.

Even politicians should be able to understand that it makes sense to allow people who live or work in a rural or wilderness area to carry a handgun. But they certainly won't - and shouldn't, in my opinion - allow urban people to carry in an urban situation.
 
The Sand Man said:
I agree with mkrainc, not much will stop a charging bear, probably not a handgun...Even if you are extremely skilled and prepared.

I think that a handgun would simply calm you into a false sense of security.

When it comes to mountain biking in bear country, all I can say is...pedal faster :p

Cheers,
Sand
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You mean like the girl near Orillia the other day?:p
 
they have the entire ATC process lock down pretty tight. You cannot get a wilderness ATC unless you can prove you either require for your occupation OR if you are a trapper etc you must demonstrate you have income from said activities. There is very little wiggle room for the wilderness ATC. As for the personal protection or what people think is the "type 3" authorization to carry, unless you have both force training that the CFO will recognize AND have a VERIFIABLE THREAT (aka police report, restraining orders etc etc) you will not get this class of ATC.

How do I know, I have tried to get an ATC. According to the CFO here in Alberta, and is the standard line across the country, a general threat of urban violence does not support the need for an ATC.
 
swampdog said:
and shouldn't, in my opinion - allow urban people to carry in an urban situation.
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You are an enemy of gun rights in Canada with statements like that.

So, according to you, people shouldn't be allowed to protect themselves in the most likely place they would be attacked? ie: urban

Picking and choosing what rights you support and others that you don't agree with segregates us into small interest groups instead of one cohesive unit.
 
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