Anyone Having Issues with the Norc M305's in 7.6x39?

A friend of mine put 50 rounds through and the bolt hold open stopped working. Seemed like it was too short in the first place, or the metal was soft and it seemed worn down. It just would not catch and hold. Brand new, bought that week.
 
brindle said:
A friend of mine put 50 rounds through and the bolt hold open stopped working. Seemed like it was too short in the first place, or the metal was soft and it seemed worn down. It just would not catch and hold. Brand new, bought that week.
Click to expand...

Any idea if the catch is the same size as a standard?

Lots of aftermarket options if it is.
 
The BHO on the x39 doesn’t work, it’s welded so that it acts as an ejector instead.

Some AK mags follower act as a BHO, but will drop the bolt as soon as they are removed.

John
 
i haven't seen one of these in the flesh yet..... and don't ever plan too haha
Of all the useful calibers they "could" have produced with a simple barrel caliber change and gas port size adjustment ..... they produced an abortion in x39 that probably took more tooling and fuggering about to manufacture than simply screwing on a different caliber that is already know to be compatable.
 
brindle said:
A friend of mine put 50 rounds through and the bolt hold open stopped working. Seemed like it was too short in the first place, or the metal was soft and it seemed worn down. It just would not catch and hold. Brand new, bought that week.
Click to expand...

Your friend doesn't know his rifle very well. These don't have a BHO in them like the 7.62x51 rifles.
As m14medic says, some mags will act like one but the bolt will drop as soon as the magazine is removed.

45ACPKING said:
i haven't seen one of these in the flesh yet..... and don't ever plan too haha
Of all the useful calibers they "could" have produced with a simple barrel caliber change and gas port size adjustment ..... they produced an abortion in x39 that probably took more tooling and fuggering about to manufacture than simply screwing on a different caliber that is already know to be compatable.
Click to expand...

I wish they had built these in .243. I would have bought one by now if they had. I've already got two 305's but a 243 model would have forced me to add another.
If I could find one in x39 for $500ish I'd be willing to try it out even though x39 is blasphemous in such an iconic rifle. But since they're made in China I would be willing to overlook that for the right price :p
 
Last edited:
Maybe I am calling it by the wrong name. The M14 Assembly Guide calls it a bolt stop. After about fifty rounds the bolt would not stay locked back after the last round. His rifle has the same little rocker switch set into the receiver that my x51 does. It would not function to hold the bolt back like mine does. When manually engaged it holds for a second then the bolt slips by it and slams home, like there is not enough material to hold it there. Seems like an issue.
 
The rifle was checked by the vendor and pronounced as functioning normally. Although I still find the issue strange I appear to be in the minority. People much more qualified than me agree with the vendor so I appear to be in error.
Oops.
 
I'm The Friend Brindle is referring to above, and yeah I don't know the rifle very well. Guilty :)

It's apparently not last round BHO, but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would include the little button on the side whose only point seems to be holding the bolt open, when it to be fair just doesn't do that.

Anyone with more familiarity with the weapon care to comment on what that thing might be for (if not that)?
 
Last edited:
Jeff the Barber said:
I'm The Friend Brindle is referring to above, and yeah I don't know the rifle very well. Guilty :)

It's apparently not last round BHO, but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would include the little button on the side whose only point seems to be holding the bolt open, when it to be fair just doesn't do that.

Anyone with more familiarity with the weapon care to comment on what that thing might be for (if not that)?
Click to expand...

M14 Medic is probably the most qualified person working on this platform on this site.
 
Do these use the same receiver as the 7.62x51 with just a modified magwell or is it a whole new thing? Perhaps the bolt hold open lever is there because... well... its there. Dont most BHO work by the follower pushing up the bolt catch. If the AK mags dont accomodate this (and they dont it seems) then the bolt will not hold open after the last round regardless if the parts exist on the receiver. Maybe they just put it on to keep it looking like an m14.
 
Jeff the Barber said:
I'm The Friend Brindle is referring to above, and yeah I don't know the rifle very well. Guilty :)

It's apparently not last round BHO, but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would include the little button on the side whose only point seems to be holding the bolt open, when it to be fair just doesn't do that.

Anyone with more familiarity with the weapon care to comment on what that thing might be for (if not that)?
Click to expand...

It happens :)

Rather than using a plunger type ejector in the bolt face, the Chinese use a fixed ejector mounted in place of the bolt hold open on the X39 M14's. If you open the bolt and look at the face, you'll see how the edge of that piece slides through the slot in the bolt and kicks the spent case off the ejector and out of the ejection port as the bolt travels rearward.

This would've been done so that they could use the same receiver as the X51's without modification, and not have to fill that empty slot where the bolt hold open used to go. Dual purpose!
 
Thanks very much, guys. Good info all around.

I still kept it. I like it, and it's the most accurate rifle I own, so it's staying in the pile.
 
want.

could practice at 100 with this gun on the cheap big time.

Id love a 243 ort what ever but it would still cost just as much to shoot
 
Last edited:
There seems to be 2 variants of the 7.62x39 M14's.
1 has the bolt hold open fixed in place which also acts as the ejector, corresponding slot milled into the bolt.
The other has a plunger type ejector, same as the 308 version.
Some have the charger bridge, some don't, and I'm not sure if this is related to the ejection design. I can see the charger bridge interfering with ejection with the fixed ejector type. Plunger should be fine with it present.
 
Hitzy said:
There seems to be 2 variants of the 7.62x39 M14's.
1 has the bolt hold open fixed in place which also acts as the ejector, corresponding slot milled into the bolt.
The other has a plunger type ejector, same as the 308 version.
Some have the charger bridge, some don't, and I'm not sure if this is related to the ejection design. I can see the charger bridge interfering with ejection with the fixed ejector type. Plunger should be fine with it present.
Click to expand...
They should all atleast have the dovetail for the charger bridge to be inserted, whether the piece is actually there or not.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom