I recently aquired a Greener mauser rifle in 9x57 and was just wondering if any CGN'ers hunt with a 9x57? Also what animals you use it for? There seems to be less info on the 9x57 than the other common mauser chamberings.
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ANYONE HUNT WITH A 9x57?
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The 9x57 is a good cartridge. It is right between a .358 Win and a .35 Whelen, which is not a bad place to be. There is an article on .35cal.com that shows how to sage .366" bullets down to .358", and you could use that method to swage bullets for your rifle.
Yep - in terms of hunting applications think of it as a European .358Win - a great midrange brush thumper.
I measured some old original Kynoch 9x57 factory rounds last week at the local gun shop and the bullets actually measured at .355" - so if necessary - swaging down 250gr .358 would seem a better plan to me - unless 286gr bullets were wanted for some reason. You perhaps should slug your bore as various diameters have been reported from .352 to .356 in my reading.
Another 9x57 thread - http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407742
CIP minimal specs for the bore are;
Bore; 8.78mm (0.346")
Grooves; 9.06mm (0.357")
area; 63.25 sq.mm (0.386 cu. in.)
But in fact there may be quite a lot of variation, because a lot of 9X57 were made in the interwar (after WWI) period by reboring 8X57 barrels to 9mm.
This was done under different confition and the respect of the specs was not always "a priority". They usually are of bigger diameter (usually a bit over 0.358").
I have seen some of these rifles with really eccentric bores...
The 9X57 is a really capable round, but not a long range one. 250 grains bullets will do almost anything you can think of. Being conservative in hanloading the round is also a good advise.
Bore; 8.78mm (0.346")
Grooves; 9.06mm (0.357")
area; 63.25 sq.mm (0.386 cu. in.)
But in fact there may be quite a lot of variation, because a lot of 9X57 were made in the interwar (after WWI) period by reboring 8X57 barrels to 9mm.
This was done under different confition and the respect of the specs was not always "a priority". They usually are of bigger diameter (usually a bit over 0.358").
I have seen some of these rifles with really eccentric bores...
The 9X57 is a really capable round, but not a long range one. 250 grains bullets will do almost anything you can think of. Being conservative in hanloading the round is also a good advise.
A guy I work with tried one out that his father owns, German manufacture, a very light sporter. He claims he'd rather be beaten with a 2x4 than fire it again. Could he be the victim of an undersize bore, I've read that measurements can be all over the place.
Well, then if he got beaten by a 9X57, he better quit shooting.
In fact the 9X57 is a quite low pressure round that almost every shooter can handle.
For a 250 grains bullet @ 2250 fps with a 7lbs rifle, you're talking of 25 ft-lbs of recoil energy at a velocity of 15.2 ft-sec. It just above the .308 Win level.
Now comaparig it to this;
A 300 Win Mag, 180 Bullet @ 3000 fps with a 7lbs rifle, you get 34 ft-lbs of recoil energy at a velocity of 17.5 ft-sec.
And almost everyone can shoot a 300 WM...
In fact the 9X57 is a quite low pressure round that almost every shooter can handle.
For a 250 grains bullet @ 2250 fps with a 7lbs rifle, you're talking of 25 ft-lbs of recoil energy at a velocity of 15.2 ft-sec. It just above the .308 Win level.
Now comaparig it to this;
A 300 Win Mag, 180 Bullet @ 3000 fps with a 7lbs rifle, you get 34 ft-lbs of recoil energy at a velocity of 17.5 ft-sec.
And almost everyone can shoot a 300 WM...
Whelan B
I swaged some bullets to .356 to try a few different weights (200-250grn) and loads. I have not had a chance to fire it yet. I have some factory Knyoch, RWS, and Norma ammo and all measure .355. My rifle bore is .356.
I will have lots of time to work up loads since Ontario rifle deer season is over untill next November. I think it will make a nice deer gun. I'll post some pics when I get a chance.
Regards
I swaged some bullets to .356 to try a few different weights (200-250grn) and loads. I have not had a chance to fire it yet. I have some factory Knyoch, RWS, and Norma ammo and all measure .355. My rifle bore is .356.
I will have lots of time to work up loads since Ontario rifle deer season is over untill next November. I think it will make a nice deer gun. I'll post some pics when I get a chance.
Regards
I hunt with a 9.35x57 in an old commercial '96 Swede. Light fast handling gun, #### on closing makes for wickedly fast follow-up shots. It's a great cartrige for Ontario bush. Where I hunt there's tons of brambles and saplings, shots are pretty much always taken through some level of cover, and you know a .366cal 286gr bullet is gonna keep on keeping on. I shot a deer with it last year at about 40-60yds and the effect was significant to say the least.
EDIT: as to recoil it's not that much that you will feel it hunting. Less than slugs out of a 12.
EDIT: as to recoil it's not that much that you will feel it hunting. Less than slugs out of a 12.
