Now you are making sense! I would use North American 8mm or reload your own. The Euro stuff is loaded hot and will erode your bore and chamber much faster than the underpowered North American stuff. More erosion means less value, follow?
Anyone know if a nazi eagle over swastika proof mark stamp exists to buy?
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Now you are making sense! I would use North American 8mm or reload your own. The Euro stuff is loaded hot and will erode your bore and chamber much faster than the underpowered North American stuff. More erosion means less value, follow?
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We've hacked on you enough - TIME FOR PICTURES!
We've hacked on you enough - TIME FOR PICTURES!
brunetp, it may not be a Russian capture. Most of the countries the Axis troops, occupied during WWII, had K98s and all sorts of other firearms, laying around all over the place. Warehouses, battlefields, town squares, hidden in barns etc. Same goes for Allied weapons and kit.
The Russians, weren't the only ones that hated the waffenampts or swastikas. That rifle, could have had the marks stamped out anywhere.
What the fellows are really trying to tell you, is that the rifle has been modified, as well as re assembled, by a captor. You won't be able to change that. I'm surprised, that only the receiver isn't matched to the other parts. To have a K98, with a bolt that is matching all to itself and the rest of the rifle, having numbers that match the receiver, isn't unusual. It happened a lot. Many Axis troops, as well as their captors, pulled the bolts and either threw them away or put them in separate piles. Their chances of being reunited again, became impossible.
Your rifle, is a legitimate collector, as is. The fake stamps at Numrich, are very easy to spot. I understand why you want to make the waffenampts clearer but it would detract from the legitimate history of the rifle and actually devalue it.
Another sad fact, there are a lot of put together from parts rifles out there now. People, are scrounging up old parts bins, or buying the parts to assemble complete rifles. These "bitser" rifles, are pretty easy to spot. It they're done properly, they shoot well and you don't have to devalue a fine collectable specimen, taking it to the range.
Leave it alone. Live with it. 20 years from now, it will have tripled in value and you won't be sorry. The fact that is is ex Nazi, is already obvious by the peened out waffenampts.
The Russians, weren't the only ones that hated the waffenampts or swastikas. That rifle, could have had the marks stamped out anywhere.
What the fellows are really trying to tell you, is that the rifle has been modified, as well as re assembled, by a captor. You won't be able to change that. I'm surprised, that only the receiver isn't matched to the other parts. To have a K98, with a bolt that is matching all to itself and the rest of the rifle, having numbers that match the receiver, isn't unusual. It happened a lot. Many Axis troops, as well as their captors, pulled the bolts and either threw them away or put them in separate piles. Their chances of being reunited again, became impossible.
Your rifle, is a legitimate collector, as is. The fake stamps at Numrich, are very easy to spot. I understand why you want to make the waffenampts clearer but it would detract from the legitimate history of the rifle and actually devalue it.
Another sad fact, there are a lot of put together from parts rifles out there now. People, are scrounging up old parts bins, or buying the parts to assemble complete rifles. These "bitser" rifles, are pretty easy to spot. It they're done properly, they shoot well and you don't have to devalue a fine collectable specimen, taking it to the range.
Leave it alone. Live with it. 20 years from now, it will have tripled in value and you won't be sorry. The fact that is is ex Nazi, is already obvious by the peened out waffenampts.
I try to leave my milsurps in exactly the same condition I got them minus any dirt, cosmo, and rust (for the really used and abused ones).
I can understand your intentions to restore the rifle back to its original glory but you unknowingly struck a bad cord on the milsurp forum.
Just remember, people are not making those type of Kar98ks anymore so originality is always a winner when it comes time to sell. Re-striking the markings would be no different than sanding a Kar98k stock and re-bluing the metal. You would have a beautiful rifle for personal use and display but nothing that would come close to unaltered examples on the collector market.
We can't stop you but please be informed about what lies ahead should you choose to proceed.
I can understand your intentions to restore the rifle back to its original glory but you unknowingly struck a bad cord on the milsurp forum.
Just remember, people are not making those type of Kar98ks anymore so originality is always a winner when it comes time to sell. Re-striking the markings would be no different than sanding a Kar98k stock and re-bluing the metal. You would have a beautiful rifle for personal use and display but nothing that would come close to unaltered examples on the collector market.
We can't stop you but please be informed about what lies ahead should you choose to proceed.
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We've hacked on you enough - TIME FOR PICTURES!
aggreed
I don't have a digital camera at the moment, sorry guys. Yea everything on it is stamped with the same 5 digit number 20### except the reciever which has another number. I can sit for hours looking at it wondering what this rifle has been through, what it has seen and done. Very cool.
I STRONGLY agree with this statement. It goes for Mosin-Nagants too. If the shellac is worn off that's fine. I'm not storing my rifles outside anyway. Too many people want a perfect looking rifle and not one that's seen the ravages of war and history.
If bubba has altered it, however, (lets say he's sanded off the shellac) I have no problem restoring it. Anything bubba has done it's good to undo if you can.
I will bet you that finding an original condition RC98 with shellac intact is going to be really hard in the future because of idiots who want a non captured example but can't wait for it so they de-russify it half-assedly and pretend that part of its history ever existed.
I think one of the concerns that I haven't noticed mentioned here yet is the more "fakes" there end up being out there (if they are really good fakes), then the possibility exists that the "non-fakes" will be de-valued as it would become hard to tell the difference between a good one and a fake one. From what I read though - the stamps sold by Numrich et. al. are easily spotted.
