anyone know if Wolf 45ACP 200gr SWC is jacketed?

We're just bugging you. I wouldn't use it for bear defense but it's probably better than nothing. Have you looked at a Rossi Ranch Hand in 44 Mag or 45LC? It's what I use when harvesting and they can be loaded pretty hot.

Search google for man grabs bear by tongue. Someone down east was attacked by a bear and he grabbed it by the tongue and wouldn't let go.

Ryan



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I am looking for antique revolvers instead of carrying my twelve gauge it gets heavy on a 30k hike and the only god damned pistol you can carry in this communist country is a relic. No I dont have a carry permit or I would carry a 454 casul. You #######s with your smart assed comments can shove them up your asses. I know damned well what works best. My twelve gauge or a pjstol that will land me in jail. Now if you dont have anything constructive to say then you know where you can go.
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The Marlin 45-70 is carried by many outfitter guide in Alaska... they are available in stainless, rugged..short rifle. That will be my choice since you do not have the restricted permit.
Myself if I had to pick up a handgun for such a purpose..it will be a Magnum Research BFR 45.70 or a S&W .500 nothing less...
 
I have owned a Webley MK II in .45 ACP. And I can assure you it can't be loaded hot enough safety to slow down a bear. Ranch hand or mare's leg is unfortunately the best way to go. Or get some slugs for your mossberg 500. Personally i d just stick with an m14 shorty and call er a day. Light is nice but strength is better
 
Any handgun chambered in .45 Colt is not legally antique status in Canada, Which leads me to believe you're looking at loading some .45 acp into a webley revolver. I have zero experience with grizzlies, but I would not trust a 200 gr lead pill at 8-900 FPS (I'm guessing here, if they can be loaded up to that) if put in the type of situation in which you'd be carrying this for anyways. Even a dominion arms outlaw double barrel should be light enough to carry in a pack, and way more lethal.
 
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The Marlin 45-70 is carried by many outfitter guide in Alaska... they are available in stainless, rugged..short rifle. That will be my choice since you do not have the restricted permit.
Myself if I had to pick up a handgun for such a purpose..it will be a Magnum Researc
h BFR 45.70 or a S&W .500 nothing less...
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I don't get why everyone says they'd use .500s&w for bear defence. Thats a gun that take practice, good technique, and a good solid hold do you think you could manage that when it come down to it. If you don't know what your doing it can be more dangerous behind the gun the infront of it.

Like other have said a 8" shotgun or a .44 mag mares leg would be great lightweight powerfull guns.
 
If it's an antique are you sure it's 45 ACP and not 455 Webley? If that's the case it's even less suitable for your intended purpose because the 455 is pretty anemic as handgun cartridges go. And even if it's 45ACP I would certainly not want to load up 45 ACPs to max in a pistol that old. It's been said earlier and I have to agree that an 8 inch to 14 inch 12 gauge pump like the DA Grizzly is really your best bet. Not terribly heavy, very compact, reliable pump action, up to 5 or 6 round capacity (depending on barrel length) and there's not much in North America that a few 12 gauge slugs won't stop, especially some of the newer slug designs.

If you're dead set on using a handgun you need something powerful enough (I would say 44 mag as a minimum) and then look into getting a wilderness carry permit. Normally they're only given to people like prospectors or game guides but you might be able to make a case if the area you're in has a lot of bears.
 
I am talking for myself there..I can handle a S&W .500...been at it for 40 years with big bore handgun...and obviously many shooter can do it to. I owned an outfitting business and no I will not wish to defend myself or anybody from a bear attack with a .44 mag. I know some will jump up and say it have been done..but it is a dangerous proposition. I you have to defend yourself from a bear attack..get enough gun, and a long gun of the proper caliber beat a 8 inches shotgun or a .44 mag anytime.
I do not consider a .44 mag a powerfull gun..powerfull start at .454 Casull and up for me. Get a rifle, a big bore rifle for your own safety and the other you want to protect.
 
I feel for you. I went on an extended trip up north last summer. In the end couldn't find a legal gun that I considered would be truly useful. I was travelling on my motorcycle so any kind of long gun wasn't realistic and our crazy laws don't permit handguns. Any antique cannot be loaded to level you need for grizzlies. In the end I went with bear spray and hoped for the best. Saw lots of bears, I lost count of how many, but fortunately both them and I must have behaved properly as we had no problems. Personally if allowed by our laws I would have gone with a long barrel 44Mag revolver, reliable, with hot loads and hard cast bullets. Human defence bullets are completely useless as they don't penetrate much. The hard casts have good penetration and are pretty hard hitting and you don't have to kill the bear just drive them away. Yes I know it is best to kill humanely but in a defensive situation you do the best you can. If you can't deploy it quickly and shoot it accurately you may as well have a baseball bat. If a grizzly charges from 50 yards you have about 2-3 seconds to deploy, aim and shoot. If you are totally ready you might get two shots of but more likely only 1.
 
The whole idea was on long hikes not to have to carry so much weight. Ive got about the lightest compact pump you can get so i guess i will have to stick with that.
 
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