Anyone know what bullet this is?
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I've got some older production Norma bullets, the 7mm 150 gr has no cannelure, the .308 180 gr dual core has both a crimping groove and a knurled cannelure just above it, but the jacket matrerial of both is a silver color rather than brass colored. I've got some recent production Norma bullets in 9.3, none of these have cannelures, and all are copper colored.
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I just checked the old red-and-tan box Normas that Ted gave me. Now, they're all seated in cases and not crimped but If memory serves they have a cannelure. But they are magnetic. So you know what that means.
No, seriously, anyone know what that means?
No, seriously, anyone know what that means?
I know I already mentioned it but people still keep saying Norma. According to Norma those are not their bullets.
Dear Sir
No, not ours. We used to use nickel plated steel and the current ones are conventional guilding metal colour
Dr Don Heath D.Sc.
Manager, Research and Development
Norma Precision AB
S 670 40
Åmotfors
Sweden
+46 571 315 05
Verifierade laddata finns på vår webbplats www.norma.cc eller i Normas Laddmanual.
Förslag på alternativa laddningar som erhålls från Normas Tekniska support är att betrakta som riktlinjer och ersätter ej data publicerat enligt ovan.
Dear Sir
No, not ours. We used to use nickel plated steel and the current ones are conventional guilding metal colour
Dr Don Heath D.Sc.
Manager, Research and Development
Norma Precision AB
S 670 40
Åmotfors
Sweden
+46 571 315 05
Verifierade laddata finns på vår webbplats www.norma.cc eller i Normas Laddmanual.
Förslag på alternativa laddningar som erhålls från Normas Tekniska support är att betrakta som riktlinjer och ersätter ej data publicerat enligt ovan.
About 40 years ago an ammo manufacturer went out of business or perhaps just out of ammo production. A lot of their remaining bullet stock was put out at a very good price to hand loaders. I bought several hundred 150 grain round nose 30 cal bullets. They are long gone now but my best recollection is the color and crimp grooves were similar to the OP's picture. The brand name may have been Gevelot or similar name but I am not certain. I think the company had been producing loaded ammo within Canada. I do recall the bullets arrived in plastic bags containing 100 bullets per bag. Doubt I ever tested them with a magnet, just used them up in 30-30's and 308 Win. May or may not be the same.
Actually, I have quite a few of the silver colored Norma bullets in 5 diameters.
[6.5mm/139; 270/130; 7mm/150; 308/180; 8mm/198]
The jackets are mild steel, and magnetic.
However, the guy at Norma who said they only made those and the newer copper
colored, gilding metal is off base. [maybe a newer employee?]
I just opened an older box of Norma bullets [it was sealed] in 30 Cal, 150 grain RN with a small boattail.
The jacket material is neither gilding metal not MS. It is brass-colored, just like the ones in the OP's post.
I opened another sealed box of Norma Bullets, 180 grain Semi-spitzer boattails. No cannelure at all, but
guess what? Same brass/bronze color. I have also seen a 6.5mm/139 grain Norma bullet that looked the same.
Neither of the last two bullets is magnetic.
FWIW, the old, MS jacketed dual-core Norma bullet was a very good game bullet, even at 308 Norma Mag speeds.
Regards, Dave.
[6.5mm/139; 270/130; 7mm/150; 308/180; 8mm/198]
The jackets are mild steel, and magnetic.
However, the guy at Norma who said they only made those and the newer copper
colored, gilding metal is off base. [maybe a newer employee?]
I just opened an older box of Norma bullets [it was sealed] in 30 Cal, 150 grain RN with a small boattail.
The jacket material is neither gilding metal not MS. It is brass-colored, just like the ones in the OP's post.
I opened another sealed box of Norma Bullets, 180 grain Semi-spitzer boattails. No cannelure at all, but
guess what? Same brass/bronze color. I have also seen a 6.5mm/139 grain Norma bullet that looked the same.
Neither of the last two bullets is magnetic.
FWIW, the old, MS jacketed dual-core Norma bullet was a very good game bullet, even at 308 Norma Mag speeds.
Regards, Dave.
Actually, the magnetic Norma bullets are made of Tri-Clad "alloy". This process was developped for Swedish Military (M/41).
I don't know if they ever made a 7mm 150 grains round nose bullet for themselves, but they produced a whole lot of cases and bullets for others.
From Norma's Gunbug's Guide;
I don't know if they ever made a 7mm 150 grains round nose bullet for themselves, but they produced a whole lot of cases and bullets for others.
From Norma's Gunbug's Guide;
Well inquisitive minds want to know so I sectioned one.
Has the copper/bronze coating on the outside, steel jacket under neath and then also copper/bronze coated on the inside of the jacket. No partitions or sections. Just a "normal" cup and core construction.
View under microscope. Showing the cannelure section of the bullet. Top is the outside of the bullet with the lead part at the bottom of the picture. Can clearly see the copper/bronze coating on the outside and inside of the jacket.
Has the copper/bronze coating on the outside, steel jacket under neath and then also copper/bronze coated on the inside of the jacket. No partitions or sections. Just a "normal" cup and core construction.
View under microscope. Showing the cannelure section of the bullet. Top is the outside of the bullet with the lead part at the bottom of the picture. Can clearly see the copper/bronze coating on the outside and inside of the jacket.
I recently loaded up some 303 British 150gr RN that are deadringers for these,except for caliber of course,that were labelled as being Gevelot.Magnetic,same basic profile and tapered cannelure.If memory serves me correctly I originally bought them at the old Ellwood Epps store in North Bay,ON many years ago.That would be my guess.
