Anyone know why the FN FAL was outlawed??
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USGI M 14 are also prohibited as converted autos, as are the FALs.
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I do not believe that there is any rhyme, nor good reason for the legislated difficulty involved in getting your hands on one of those beauties.
FYI, the FN and it's variants based on it's lower frame assembly have been restricted for a very long time, since 1977 (...? I am certain someone here can provide the date when it became a 'restricted' rifle). If my info's accurate, there was a time when it was not restricted at all!
I have no idea why. It might have something to do with that it was used by the Canadian Forces... at least that might be the line the legislators used to justify it.
FYI, the FN and it's variants based on it's lower frame assembly have been restricted for a very long time, since 1977 (...? I am certain someone here can provide the date when it became a 'restricted' rifle). If my info's accurate, there was a time when it was not restricted at all!
I have no idea why. It might have something to do with that it was used by the Canadian Forces... at least that might be the line the legislators used to justify it.
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...because it's a hot little rifle, too cool to live, too awesome to die?
I didn't think it was restricted until 1983 or so. It seems to me that I bought one at Levers in the late '70s and sold it in the early '80s when there was word it was going to be restricted. I could be mistaken, tho, its getting to be a long time ago!
A FAL is a little bit ground off the end of a pin and a new selector switch away from rocking and rolling in the third selector switch position (or you could even modify the existing selector switch if you knew what you were doing).........
I think there is a very good case for getting some of the new US versions approved as the upper receivers have no provision to accept the safety sear and would require permanent, deliberate and obvious modification to do so.
Good luck getting the RCMP to go there though - they have lost sight of the fact that the prohib list exists to protect the public from full auto and easily convertible (ie: 10 minutes in the garage with your cordless drill) to full auto guns NOT guns that are simply scary looking..........
I think there is a very good case for getting some of the new US versions approved as the upper receivers have no provision to accept the safety sear and would require permanent, deliberate and obvious modification to do so.
Good luck getting the RCMP to go there though - they have lost sight of the fact that the prohib list exists to protect the public from full auto and easily convertible (ie: 10 minutes in the garage with your cordless drill) to full auto guns NOT guns that are simply scary looking..........
It was an act of parliament due to a large number of L1 a1 coming in from Australia. The safety sear allows it's easily to be converted to safe automatic if the carrier is unchopped.
It was restricted then eventually prohibited. You can't really control an auto fn anyway. The Cdn c1s were semi only.
It was restricted then eventually prohibited. You can't really control an auto fn anyway. The Cdn c1s were semi only.
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I'm sorry, but every answer above is nonsense, plain and simple (with the possible exception of "because it's a hot little rifle").
This comment is especially off the mark:
The prohibited list never had anything with "easily convertible to full auto" guns. It was ALWAYS 100% about guns that looked scary. That is why, officially, guns were graded on a point scale. Any gun receiving 50 points was prohibited, and the presence of a pistol grip earned 49.
The FAL (and all variants) became prohibited on January 1, 1995, the same day as the AK-47, HK 91, Galil, Sig PE57, Beretta BM-59, AR-18, Daewoo K1, FN-FNC and a bunch of other rifles. The FAL was not singled out in any way, not for its capabilities, not for any eccentricities of its trigger system, not for its availability. Essentially, every centrefire semi-auto rifle with a pistol grip, except the AR-15. became prohibited. The Liberal government was trying to remove non-sporting "assault rifles" from civilian hands, and the FN-FAL fell into that category.
This comment is especially off the mark:
The prohibited list never had anything with "easily convertible to full auto" guns. It was ALWAYS 100% about guns that looked scary. That is why, officially, guns were graded on a point scale. Any gun receiving 50 points was prohibited, and the presence of a pistol grip earned 49.
The FAL (and all variants) became prohibited on January 1, 1995, the same day as the AK-47, HK 91, Galil, Sig PE57, Beretta BM-59, AR-18, Daewoo K1, FN-FNC and a bunch of other rifles. The FAL was not singled out in any way, not for its capabilities, not for any eccentricities of its trigger system, not for its availability. Essentially, every centrefire semi-auto rifle with a pistol grip, except the AR-15. became prohibited. The Liberal government was trying to remove non-sporting "assault rifles" from civilian hands, and the FN-FAL fell into that category.
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That year sounds correct to me. Because I had an Aussie/F1A1 in 1982, a year later it was on the restricted list!
Prohibiting the AR15 would have pissed off a whole bunch of people all at once - hence the restricted status......
Anyone have any friends in the Conservative government? The prohibited list can be amended by order in council which involves cabinet approving the change and then getting it signed by the governor general - it doesn't go near the house of commons or the senate........
I would suggest starting small - ie: US versions of the FAL built on semi-auto only receivers........
Anyone have any friends in the Conservative government? The prohibited list can be amended by order in council which involves cabinet approving the change and then getting it signed by the governor general - it doesn't go near the house of commons or the senate........
I would suggest starting small - ie: US versions of the FAL built on semi-auto only receivers........
many non-restricted and restricted firearms can be converted to "clear the room" in 10 minutes. Some firearms you do something very simple like change firing pin spring, or make slight modifications. I'll go with the "no rhyme or reason" just like most prohibs. kind of like how shotguns that can switch from pump to semi like franchi SPAS and some benellis are prohibs. no rhyme or reason. well i guess you could scare someone to death with an SPAS!
What he said... Scum sucking Lieberals!!!
This is true, but the order is important. They go for the ones that will cause the least fuss. Like they thought about the T97. They were WRONG, because we are all now watching them (Just like the NRA is now watching Barack Osama).
That.... is.... awesome!!!!
