anyone regreted getting a Norinco?
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I have two NP22s, and the only problem I ever had with them was a single round of bad factory ammo.
The only complain that I have is that one of the little internal springs (the take down pin retension spring) keeps on breaking, but the gun comes with some extras, so it's fine. I recently ordered the real Sig version, that should fit and should last a lot longer.
I'm in the process of replacing my NPs with K100s only because I want to be able to shoot in the U.S., and I can't with Norincos. If you want to try my NPs, and you're in the GTA, we can work something out
Ohhh, with the internal cleanup I think I ended up paying about $450 each. A new Sig is what? $1000?? No way is the Sig worth twice the money, based on my experience (and I have a P226).
The only complain that I have is that one of the little internal springs (the take down pin retension spring) keeps on breaking, but the gun comes with some extras, so it's fine. I recently ordered the real Sig version, that should fit and should last a lot longer.
I'm in the process of replacing my NPs with K100s only because I want to be able to shoot in the U.S., and I can't with Norincos. If you want to try my NPs, and you're in the GTA, we can work something out
Ohhh, with the internal cleanup I think I ended up paying about $450 each. A new Sig is what? $1000?? No way is the Sig worth twice the money, based on my experience (and I have a P226).
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Yes, Had a norinco 1911 about 4 years ago... verry poorly made/fit(exceptionaly poor). I don't think I will ever buy another norinco again... although I have been tempted. My view is norinco is still way overpriced for the quality you get. I still think most norincos are overpriced by about 35%(just my opinion... im not going to argue with anyone)
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I have an M1911A1-C that I picked up for 400$ with a bunch of spare parts and other mods done to it. The only ####y finish that I can complain about are the slide serrations, that I cleaned up with a fine file, and the inside of the dust cover, which I cleaned up some with a smooth stone and file.
The deburring took about 15min for the entire gun. Slide to frame fit took some tightening, just poped it into a milling vice to tighten (Kurt style) and lapped it to the frame. A good hour project.
I'm in the process of getting new sights and then I'll do some more mill work to get it looking the way I want her to.
Was it worth it, YES.
But getting one stock, maybe if your patient.
They are very reliable and the 109mm barrel on a .45 is a blast!
The deburring took about 15min for the entire gun. Slide to frame fit took some tightening, just poped it into a milling vice to tighten (Kurt style) and lapped it to the frame. A good hour project.
I'm in the process of getting new sights and then I'll do some more mill work to get it looking the way I want her to.
Was it worth it, YES.
But getting one stock, maybe if your patient.
They are very reliable and the 109mm barrel on a .45 is a blast!
i bought an NP34, i only regret it because i lost money on it when i sold it....
the thing was i bought it as a second gun, and i just never used it much because it i just ended up shooting my P99 all the time... having said that if it was a first gun, it probably would have been a different story....
the thing was i bought it as a second gun, and i just never used it much because it i just ended up shooting my P99 all the time... having said that if it was a first gun, it probably would have been a different story....
Omen, just wondering since you have the P226 why don't you use it instead for IPSC? too nice to beat up?
BTW how is the finish, trigger, accuracy of NP-22 vs. P226 (I know it's not exactly a fair comparison considering the price difference)
and one more thing is the weight identical? (or at least close) it's something I've been wondering about for a while.
thanks
BTW how is the finish, trigger, accuracy of NP-22 vs. P226 (I know it's not exactly a fair comparison considering the price difference)
and one more thing is the weight identical? (or at least close) it's something I've been wondering about for a while.
thanks
There are small differences between the original and the clone, but it happens all the diffs are (for me) in favour of the NP22. The trigger reset is much shorter (in my gun) than the Sig, and the trigger itself has serrations - the Sig trigger is smooth, and my finger can't get a good grip on it. I got the Sig after the NP22 for US matches, but found out I didn't like the Sig after all, so someone else is using it..
re accuracy - well, yeah, I mean, the Sig IS more accurate but we're talking IPSC in Ont/Canada where shots over 20m are almost never required, and shots over 15m are rare. if I started to see plates at 30+m more often, I'd probably need to change guns (and change my shooting style, haha), but in the past year, I've never seen a situation where the gun wasn't accurate enough for a shot. The only time I actually had problems was trying knocking down minipoppers at last year's Triangle, but it was a combo of the dark background and the really wide sights I have, not the accuracy of the gun itself.
The NP is Aluminium in part, I think, it is lighter than the Sig...
Now the Std disclaimer - with Norincos it's hit and miss I hear. I got mine from DARK, paid a little extra for him to take the guns apart to make sure all the little bits and pieces fit, and I haven't had any problems. So take my comments to apply to only those NP22s obtained from Rodger with the similar treatement - not any Norinco out there...
re accuracy - well, yeah, I mean, the Sig IS more accurate but we're talking IPSC in Ont/Canada where shots over 20m are almost never required, and shots over 15m are rare. if I started to see plates at 30+m more often, I'd probably need to change guns (and change my shooting style, haha), but in the past year, I've never seen a situation where the gun wasn't accurate enough for a shot. The only time I actually had problems was trying knocking down minipoppers at last year's Triangle, but it was a combo of the dark background and the really wide sights I have, not the accuracy of the gun itself.
The NP is Aluminium in part, I think, it is lighter than the Sig...
Now the Std disclaimer - with Norincos it's hit and miss I hear. I got mine from DARK, paid a little extra for him to take the guns apart to make sure all the little bits and pieces fit, and I haven't had any problems. So take my comments to apply to only those NP22s obtained from Rodger with the similar treatement - not any Norinco out there...
Norc Single Stack 1911's
Bought a nice used Norc 1911 compact .45 off the site here as I was on the hunt for a Colt Combat Commander & couldn't find one at the time. The Norc was a nice pistol but I did sell it when I found a real Colt [actually I found 2 - one in 9mm & one in .45ACP ].
I think the Norc was good value for the money & seemed to shoot well. I'd buy another single stack 1911 style Norc again. None of their other stuff appeals to me, though. Instead of the Sig or CZ copies I'd buy the real deal. But I think the 1911's are good. If I was to buy new I'd go for the tuned one from Gunnar at Armco.
This was my Norc compact...[dressed up with Colt stocks...]
Bought a nice used Norc 1911 compact .45 off the site here as I was on the hunt for a Colt Combat Commander & couldn't find one at the time. The Norc was a nice pistol but I did sell it when I found a real Colt [actually I found 2 - one in 9mm & one in .45ACP
]. I think the Norc was good value for the money & seemed to shoot well. I'd buy another single stack 1911 style Norc again. None of their other stuff appeals to me, though. Instead of the Sig or CZ copies I'd buy the real deal. But I think the 1911's are good. If I was to buy new I'd go for the tuned one from Gunnar at Armco.
This was my Norc compact...[dressed up with Colt stocks...]
I had one of the early M305's before they were popular. Piece of ####! Fit & finish were poor and the stock was an eyesore. I'm no big fan of Norinco's!!
I personally would rather pay double or more and get a Colt, Springfield, Sig, CZ, etc.
I personally would rather pay double or more and get a Colt, Springfield, Sig, CZ, etc.
I have 2 SKS', a M14-S, a NP-30, a HP9-1 and a 1911A1...all are reliable firearms and nicely finished...with the exception of the 1911, the machining of the pistol was absolutely hideous, so I am building my own "Meltdown". I will post pics when it is done.
I believe that this whole issue comes down to 'price point'...
If you can afford 'the real deal'..Sig, Colt, CZ... you'll buy them, because you would never be happy with a 'knockoff'..
If you can't afford the industry standards, then the shortcomings of the clones
allows the price of admission to be tolerable..
But please don't give me the 'reverse snob' line...I drive a cheap/copy/wannabe because the original 'just isn't worth it'..sorry, it just doesn't wash.
Would I buy and use in good health a Gunnar 'massaged' Norc...absolutely.. if that's all I could reasonably afford....
If you can afford 'the real deal'..Sig, Colt, CZ... you'll buy them, because you would never be happy with a 'knockoff'..
If you can't afford the industry standards, then the shortcomings of the clones
allows the price of admission to be tolerable..
But please don't give me the 'reverse snob' line...I drive a cheap/copy/wannabe because the original 'just isn't worth it'..sorry, it just doesn't wash.
Would I buy and use in good health a Gunnar 'massaged' Norc...absolutely.. if that's all I could reasonably afford....
I had a NP-22 that had problem, now have a NZ-85b that I am happy with, plus a M93 (very happy with) and a SKS (not fired yet, so I don't know) Next Norks on my list will be a M305 and a Gunar tuned 1911 commander.
I intend to buy a super nice all stainless Sig 226 as my main gun, but it was the Norks that got me back into shooting and I will keep the CZ and the 1911 for fun. The cheaper price helps people get into the sport and if they stay then they invest in a better gun. So Norks are good for the shooting community in my opinion.
I intend to buy a super nice all stainless Sig 226 as my main gun, but it was the Norks that got me back into shooting and I will keep the CZ and the 1911 for fun. The cheaper price helps people get into the sport and if they stay then they invest in a better gun. So Norks are good for the shooting community in my opinion.
I bought a 1911 sight unseen & promptly sent back to the dealer without even shooting it. It was probably a good gun for the money but I just knew I would never be happy with all the sharp edges and poor quality finish. The fit didn't seem too bad though.
Dave
Dave
I belive the over all qualities are improved over these few years. Back to 2002, I went to a gun show and look at the dealer's table, full of Norinco pistols, I picked it up and put it down in no times, quality were poor, early last year at the dealer's shop, I took a look a Np 22 up and spent over 15 mins to inspected the gun and found it to be very nice built. That say their qualities are better than before. Trigun
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I like my Norinco 1911 .45. Every day I get closer to getting a 305, but I absoloutly HATED my SKS(where is the spit icon).
Had a NP-30 (Hi-Capacity 1911), for the price it was very good, but overall, it was greatly inferior to higher-grade 1911s. Trigger was hard, sights sucked big-time, loose finish.
I had fun with it while I had it. I didn't regret buying it as it was a good starting point to get in shooting.
You get what you pay for.
I had fun with it while I had it. I didn't regret buying it as it was a good starting point to get in shooting.
You get what you pay for.
I've got the M-93 (finicky, but I got it cheap) Tok 54 (good blaster) NZ-85b (very good!) and 1911 (no complaints) plus SKS-D (annoying magazine). May trade a couple in over the next year or two, but they've given me the chance to try out a number of different designs/calibres I never would have otherwise. Good (or better) value for money.
