Anyone seen any Pardini sport pistols?

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I'm looking to upgrade my Ruger mk2 Target to a Pardini SP or even an SP RF but apparently I can't get a new one because the feds won't issue import permits even with an exemption. So I have to get one used. Anybody know of any shops or retired competitors that have one?
 
I'd call Western Marksman. As the former distributor and dealer, he'll know what is out there and may have a list of former customers looking to sell.
 
Are you sure you can't get an import permit? There is provision for Global Affairs Canada (which is separate from the CFP) to issue an import permit for a new pistol, to a person who has an exemption letter. https://www.international.gc.ca/con...es/excol-ceed/notices-avis/1106.aspx?lang=eng You could contact Global Affairs as indicated on that web page and ask how to apply. You'd also have to get a registration certificate from the CFP. The CFP has a web page mentioning the registration part: https://rcmp.ca/en/firearms/importing-and-exporting/importing Personally I'd consider using an import service such as Borderview. Used Pardinis were scarce in Canada even before the transfer ban. They do occasionally show up in the US on the auction sites and sometimes the Buy & Sell board on TargetTalk.
 
AlexisCreek said:
Are you sure you can't get an import permit? There is provision for Global Affairs Canada (which is separate from the CFP) to issue an import permit for a new pistol, to a person who has an exemption letter. https://www.international.gc.ca/con...es/excol-ceed/notices-avis/1106.aspx?lang=eng You could contact Global Affairs as indicated on that web page and ask how to apply. You'd also have to get a registration certificate from the CFP. The CFP has a web page mentioning the registration part: https://rcmp.ca/en/firearms/importing-and-exporting/importing Personally I'd consider using an import service such as Borderview. Used Pardinis were scarce in Canada even before the transfer ban. They do occasionally show up in the US on the auction sites and sometimes the Buy & Sell board on TargetTalk.
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Pretty much what he said. I have received approved import permits (allbeit under the other exemption) and its pretty fast and uneventful.

Just go to the nexcol link above and apply. The logistics are the complicated part, not the permits. Things may have changed recently so feel free to ask, but Borderview told me they won't be able to import handguns for me... So I had to figure out some alternatives.
 
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Pretty much what he said. I have received approved import permits (allbeit under the other exemption) and its pretty fast and uneventful.

Just go to the nexcol link above and apply. The logistics are the complicated part, not the permits. Things may have changed recently so feel free to ask, but Borderview told me they won't be able to import handguns for me... So I had to figure out some alternatives.
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That's useful to know. I'm wondering, after you got the import permit from Global Affairs, how did you approach the CFP to obtain a registration certificate? I assume you had to do both before taking delivery.
 
AlexisCreek said:
That's useful to know. I'm wondering, after you got the import permit from Global Affairs, how did you approach the CFP to obtain a registration certificate? I assume you had to do both before taking delivery.
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In my case I submitted the approved import permit to the Registrar's office and the certificates were created. They have access to my license (business) so I didn't have to submit anything else. The 'register firearms' form was not used. I have their email but for anyone who has not dealt with them before, I'd say the process would be to call the cfp, request a transfer to the registrar's office and proceed from there, I'm not sure if I should post their extension here, but they will share it at that time too.

This is different from how the process used to be before the freeze, where the guns would get registered first via a form submission and the restricted class would not need a permit (only an IIC and optional at that for the foreign exporter use if needed). I'm not talking about prohibited handguns - they were different.

Once the guns arrive I request a transfer to the final owner. I assume the olympic shooter exemption would be checked again at this stage...

I will say again that I have not dealt with the olympic shooting exemption in particular but I expect you have pre-approval from the cfo. I would submit that to global affairs when applying for the import permit.
 
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In my case I submitted the approved import permit to the Registrar's office and the certificates were created. They have access to my license (business) so I didn't have to submit anything else. The 'register firearms' form was not used. I have their email but for anyone who has not dealt with them before, I'd say the process would be to call the cfp, request a transfer to the registrar's office and proceed from there, I'm not sure if I should post their extension here, but they will share it at that time too.

This is different from how the process used to be before the freeze, where the guns would get registered first via a form submission and the restricted class would not need a permit (only an IIC and optional at that for the foreign exporter use if needed). I'm not talking about prohibited handguns - they were different.

Once the guns arrive I request a transfer to the final owner. I assume the olympic shooter exemption would be checked again at this stage...

I will say again that I have not dealt with the olympic shooting exemption in particular but I expect you have pre-approval from the cfo. I would submit that to global affairs when applying for the import permit.
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Thanks! I know of several domestic pistol transfers, all within BC, under the Olympic/Paralympic discipline exemption, but no importations. Unfortunately it is now a lot harder to get into the sport, because the many auction sites that used to offer older European target pistols (Unique DES 69, etc), usually at reasonable prices, no longer do. The federal government just doesn't seem very interested in actually fostering the Olympic/Paralympic pistol development stream.
 
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Thanks! I know of several domestic pistol transfers, all within BC, under the Olympic/Paralympic discipline exemption, but no importations. Unfortunately it is now a lot harder to get into the sport, because the many auction sites that used to offer older European target pistols (Unique DES 69, etc), usually at reasonable prices, no longer do. The federal government just doesn't seem very interested in actually fostering the Olympic/Paralympic pistol development stream.
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FYI we have a few different sport pistols waiting for export just not the fancy pardini. So if someone is looking desperately and has an exemption we can probably convince the foreign dealer who bought them for export to sell them here instead.

And I'm 100% sure they are importable... I mean we import all handguns so there is no reason the smaller subset wouldn't be.

Frankly, I question Western's inability to import... Perhaps they are not truly interested or have not figured it out...
 
KotKotofeich said:
In my case I submitted the approved import permit to the Registrar's office and the certificates were created. They have access to my license (business) so I didn't have to submit anything else. The 'register firearms' form was not used. I have their email but for anyone who has not dealt with them before, I'd say the process would be to call the cfp, request a transfer to the registrar's office and proceed from there, I'm not sure if I should post their extension here, but they will share it at that time too.

This is different from how the process used to be before the freeze, where the guns would get registered first via a form submission and the restricted class would not need a permit (only an IIC and optional at that for the foreign exporter use if needed). I'm not talking about prohibited handguns - they were different.

Once the guns arrive I request a transfer to the final owner. I assume the olympic shooter exemption would be checked again at this stage...

I will say again that I have not dealt with the olympic shooting exemption in particular but I expect you have pre-approval from the cfo. I would submit that to global affairs when applying for the import permit.
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Excuse me but I have a few questions such as:
1. Are the registration papers at the office and certificates applied for at the locality where you are or do you have to go to the province?
2. Can I get the papers right away or do I have to wait?
Thanks for your feedback.
 
AraHowe said:
Excuse me but I have a few questions such as:
1. Are the registration papers at the office and certificates applied for at the locality where you are or do you have to go to the province?
2. Can I get the papers right away or do I have to wait?
Thanks for your feedback.
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So this answer is specific to import, not transfer of a gun already registered in Canada.

1. "Registration papers" and the certificate are the same. The Registrar's office is in Ottawa. I applied by email. By phone is likely possible too. The provincial cfo office may be involved in the background somewhere...
2. The delay depends on their load and if the FRT entry exists. A couple days last time with existing FRT entries. Months if a FRT entry has to be created (if that particular model with that particular barrel length or caliber doesn't have an entry for some reason).
 
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