Anyone shoot 8x56r Kropatschek or 8x52R Siamese??

RCBS makes dies, both in their 55000 series.

You can make Krop brass from 8x50R Lebel cases, but they will be short and likely need the rms bevelled;, brass available nowadays is not bevelled correctly.

Siamese brass is WIDE at the base; should be able to make it from .45-70. I tried using 7.62x54R casings and the base stretch was shocking! Thankfully I was loading VERY low pressure and the brass held it in.

Lee's Lebel dies are handy for necking and giving your forming brass that nice long slope to the shoulder. Cheaper than form dies, too.

Loads for both are in COTW.

Hope this helps.
 
I thought that most of the 8x52R Siamese were converted to 45/70. I have one that is still in 8x52R and Numrich Arms had the conversion kits to do this,since they had lots of them.
 
There are two in 8x52r rifles, the type 66 Mauser and the type 66 Arisaka. The Mauser was the popular rille to convert. I just picked up a type 66 Arisaka and am looking to reload for it. I have seems some conversions that were done very well.
 
The Siamese Mausers are darned scarce these days in their original calibre precisely BECAUSE so many were converted to .45-70.

As to the Arisakas, when I got mine (15 years ago) they were not even listed in most standard reference works. Interesting rifle: they just LOOK so much like a standard Arisaka, but not one single major part interchanges!
 
Make 8x56R Krop from 348 Winchester. It is the right length and can be made useing 8mm Lebel dies and beveling the rim.
 
Yeah, I'd love to buy from them again, but they don't ship rifle / pistol brass to Canada, they ship shotgun brass.

I have found the dies for CDH4 $83 USd or RCBS for $183. hummm my esoteric interests are getting expensive...
 
smellie said:
As to the Arisakas, when I got mine (15 years ago) they were not even listed in most standard reference works. Interesting rifle: they just LOOK so much like a standard Arisaka, but not one single major part interchanges!
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That has been the interesting part, not many references to them and not many pictures of the type 66 arisaka
 
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