anyone shoot at Victoria fish and game?

I'd get your name in asap for the asinine orientation and pointless holster course - since they won't sell you a 2014 membership, your new one is valid immediately

Been a member there for 2 years and haven't taken the new mbrs course. I'm guessing they have a naughty and nice list.
 
Holster course, pwfff. I can carry a loaded pistol for the service of my country but I have to have some stupid course to shoot paper at a rangef:P:, only in Canada:p
 
Been a member there for 2 years and haven't taken the new mbrs course. I'm guessing they have a naughty and nice list.
I haven't taken the orientation either and this is going to be my third year as a member . I was up there in the summer and the RO was giving me bull about not taking the orientation. I used to work as a trap kid there about 20 years ago and have been going with family and friends since I was 10. But I get sh*t because I don't have time to drive up and do the orientation. There's probably hundreds of members that have never done it.
 
Holster course, pwfff. I can carry a loaded pistol for the service of my country but I have to have some stupid course to shoot paper at a rangef:P:, only in Canada:p

No worries - if you have received holster training previously, you can email Dave Michaud and he'll exempt you from the course requirement.

The rule is there to keep the silliness at bay. Someone mentioned a naughty & nice list; I don't know anything about that, but the course requirement /exemption for qualified pre-trained members ... it cuts down a bit on the silliness - shoulder holsters, unsafe loading/unloading practices, etc.
 
You've been a member as long as the course guru has, he's also the RO guru, the holster course guru, the "after your PAL essential" course guru - are you sensing a pattern?

But is said guru a fudd or standup guy? Will I roll me eyes at every story he tells or will I be thoroughly engaged?

Unfortunately for the 6 times a year I go up I have to buy a membership. Time to go downtown to robinsons.
 
yeah but I might end up buying a volkswagen, or even worse, that bushy 50 cal they have on display.

They're raffling that Bushy off, Pullens is closer to you anyway. As far as the guy in question goes, he's not Earl, but Clobb took the course (?!) might ask him, my problem is the qualifications of the "instructor" or lack thereof.
 
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I'll have to suck it up and take the courses I guess. Why not be my own RO and holster nazi at the same time. Do you recall of black badge is grandfathered? I did it over a decade ago elsewhere... Or is it vfg-specific
 
Vic Fish an Game used to send out a newsletter each month but I haven't received one in a long time. How are we supposed to know about these rule changes (they changed the parking rules supposedly too)? I usually end finding out about any changes here on CGN.
 
Vic Fish an Game used to send out a newsletter each month but I haven't received one in a long time. How are we supposed to know about these rule changes (they changed the parking rules supposedly too)? I usually end finding out about any changes here on CGN.

They still send out monthly newsletters, maybe you need to contact them. This way you would know that as of Jan 1, hand throwers are no longer allowed on the shotgun range.
 
I'll have to suck it up and take the courses I guess. Why not be my own RO and holster nazi at the same time. Do you recall of black badge is grandfathered? I did it over a decade ago elsewhere... Or is it vfg-specific

If you can prove you did it, you get a free pass. I've been a member for close to ten years, I will NOT be taking it - you shouldn't either, it's like making The Stig take part in Canada's Worst Driver.
 
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Hi Ian,

Don't recall seeing the rational for requiring the holster course in the monthly newsletter. Is there any?
I must admit I wouldn't be as annoyed with the new rules if there was provisions to challenge the course.
My first instinct was $$$$ grab. However, I have been wrong before and I could be again this time.

Thoughts,

L
 
I just went to IO and bought a 2015 membership. Grabbed a newsletter while I was there... I would be happy to scan it to you if you pm me your email address.

Now to find a good quality lower for my LMT upper and maybe an FNX!

Happy Holidays folks!
 
Clobb took the course (?!) might ask him

Clobb, The French, my wife n' I took it a few weeks back. Pretty straight forward. Some very basic classroom stuff and then dry draw and holster drills, followed by 48 rounds of live fire. Very geared to brand new shooters. If you can be exempted from it, you won't be missing much critical information. With my freshly repaired knee I got to skip the kneeling and prone parts of the shooting ;)
 
Hi Ian,

Don't recall seeing the rational for requiring the holster course in the monthly newsletter. Is there any?
I must admit I wouldn't be as annoyed with the new rules if there was provisions to challenge the course.
My first instinct was $$$$ grab. However, I have been wrong before and I could be again this time.

Thoughts,

L

Long story short, people who have zero idea what they are doing are scaring others at the range.
For example I watched a guy this summer with a 1911 conduct slidelock reloads by pulling the empty mag, holstering the pistol, inserting a loaded mag and dropping the slide by pulling it back off the slide stop and letting the side go forward(while still holstered) then drawing and firing the next 10 rounds before the in holster mag change was repeated. When I asked him WTF he was trying to do (he at the time had the slide locked back and a loaded mag in his holstered pistol while reloading his empty mags) he explained in a round about way that he had zero idea how normal people reload a pistol or use the safety (that flippy tab thing) on a single action
pistol.
And that is why they want to set a minimum level of competence using a short course, or the fact you have been trained by someone who had a clue what they were doing.
 
The issue to me is that they aren't asking, or even watching a person and deciding from there - they're assuming you're an idiot until such time as a semi-qualified guy says you aren't. Someone who needs remedial training (such as Gunnerlove's 1911 idiot) should be tagged and required to take a course before they get back on the range. They didn't know me from a hole in the wall when I showed up from the Lower Mainland, and they didn't force me into taking a course. The courses became mandatory after the "instructor" showed up.

"or the fact you have been trained by someone who had a clue what they were doing." In the opinion of more than one person with serious professional experience, and more than one person who has taken a course from the instructor, the question would still be valid after the holster course. The fact that they're requiring people who have taken the Vickers course, PLG advanced course, and in Clobb's case the Langdon course, to take this thing is just plain dumb in as much as the students are better trained than the instructor.
 
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I Think I understand the reasoning behind these changes. My issue is they offer it once a month, on a saturday morning, and it's nearly impossible to get there early enough because of ferries etc. I think that you should be able to prove basic handing skills to the rso or mr Michaud. Just my thoughts on that
 
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