Anyone successfully reloading 14.5x114?

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If anyone is successfully reloading this caliber and is willing to walk me through the necessities, please post what you can and/or PM me please.

I'm an experienced reloader and have a Lee Classic Cast with the ability to mount .50BMG dies. Not sure if that is sufficient or not? I know CH4D dies, but unaware if they fit my press.

I also know I would probably need to turn projectiles from brass. No problem there, I have a serious lathe and a mill too.

Problem is I have no brass and no load data and maybe not a large enough press?

Any help appreciated!
 
Missing Something said:
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Great job on keeping this private! Imagine what terrorists could do with information like this! If they can shoot down passenger airliners with .50BMG, i definetly wouldnt want them getting their hands on the 14.5mm reloading info!

Also, i think posting "PM sent" is a great way to MAKE SURE that the person sees your PM. With the current CGN forum software it's very easy to miss a PM. At one point i had 15 :)eek:) unread PM's in my box, and if it wasnt for a fellow CGN-er posting "PM sent" in one of my threads, i dont think i wouldve noticed them!
 
zZ_denis said:
Great job on keeping this private! Imagine what terrorists could do with information like this! If they can shoot down passenger airliners with .50BMG, i definetly wouldnt want them getting their hands on the 14.5mm reloading info!

Also, i think posting "PM sent" is a great way to MAKE SURE that the person sees your PM. With the current CGN forum software it's very easy to miss a PM. At one point i had 15 :)eek:) unread PM's in my box, and if it wasnt for a fellow CGN-er posting "PM sent" in one of my threads, i dont think i wouldve noticed them!
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Humm.... do I detect sarcasm.....


I spent a better part of 4 years and a butt load of my own cash, with little to no help from anyone to develop "safe load data". I am not willing to "flash" it over the Internet for everyone's consumption. The other thing is liability.... I give everyone the recipe and then someone goes and does something stupid and "wham" I have suits on my door step.

Call me paranoid or whatever..... but its my data and my call....
 
Why would you not consider getting a mold made and casting the bullets? You could sell the darn things to others to recoup some cost.

I'd be happy to assist with load data. I've developed loads many times for other (albeit much smaller) cartridges and the same principle applies. You start by finding out how much propellant was found in an original loading and the MV it produced. We have very slow powders such as US869 readily available, and the rest is trial and error, working up to no more than the factory load's MV. You'd need your own data anyways if you're using a unique homemade projectile.
 
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14.5X114
COL 6.130"
Case Length 4.46"
Rim Diameter 1.06"
Bullet Weight 994 grs
Charge Weight 478 grs
MV 3200 fps

Starting loads with the 994 gr bullet as follows:

350 grs VIT 24N41
357 grs VIT 20N29
315 grs H50BMG
298 grs H5010
313 grs H870
305 grs AA 870
 
Missing Something said:
Humm.... do I detect sarcasm.....


I spent a better part of 4 years and a butt load of my own cash, with little to no help from anyone to develop "safe load data". I am not willing to "flash" it over the Internet for everyone's consumption. The other thing is liability.... I give everyone the recipe and then someone goes and does something stupid and "wham" I have suits on my door step.

Call me paranoid or whatever..... but its my data and my call....
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...and i hope you paid these poeple for the valuable help and information they provided to you.:rolleyes::

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2879243#post2879243
and this:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303929

and if i tell you were you can find them, will you pay me for the information?

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2806325#post2806325

You definitely are "missing something".
 
Claven

I have been casually looking for data over the last few months. It is very sparse out there. I believe mostly because (IIRC) this is considered a destructive device or whatever the term is and most Americans can't play with these things.
 
Boomer said:
14.5X114
COL 6.130"
Case Length 4.46"
Rim Diameter 1.06"
Bullet Weight 994 grs
Charge Weight 478 grs
MV 3200 fps

Starting loads with the 994 gr bullet as follows:

350 grs VIT 24N41
357 grs VIT 20N29
315 grs H50BMG
298 grs H5010
313 grs H870
305 grs AA 870
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Yep, QuickLoad will generate data for this cartridge.
 
You realize that the PRTD was never designed to use the 14.5 mm Machine gun ammunition in it due to the higher chamber pressures that the DSHK can withstand
 
Light Infantry said:
Claven

I have been casually looking for data over the last few months. It is very sparse out there. I believe mostly because (IIRC) this is considered a destructive device or whatever the term is and most Americans can't play with these things.
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You are correct however I spoke to a gentleman from a company that does tests involving foreign weapons up to 35mm for the US military.He stated that it was unsafe to fire ammuntion that is designed for the 14.5mm KPV Machine gun in the PRTD as they had a habit as he put it as "coming apart"
 
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Light Infantry said:
...and i hope you paid these poeple for the valuable help and information they provided to you.:rolleyes::

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2879243#post2879243
and this:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303929

and if i tell you were you can find them, will you pay me for the information?

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2806325#post2806325

You definitely are "missing something".
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NICE....

Just dont get it do you..... :jerkit:


ITS SOMETHING CALLED SAFETY......

I can post all kinds of numbers on the internet and just call it happy and hope you dont blow yourself up...

If you want info... you can PM me, LIKE I DID WITH THE ORIGINAL POSTER... and I will assist you the best I can. OTHER than that... I AM NOT WILLING TO SHARE OVER AN OPEN FORUM....
 
The original bullet was about 920 gr with a MV of about 3300 fps! Pressure was about 52K psi. Case capacity ia about 650 gr H2O. Bore diameter is about 0.586".

Mountain Molds could make a mold that drops a plain-base 700 gr bullet at 0.588" for a bit over $100. 300 gr of US869 might give you about 2600 fps - too fast for cast. Can't go too low or pressure will be too low to burn correctly, but I'd start there. Less of something faster would be worth exploring, e.g. H4831.
 
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Missing something

I totally understand your concerns about safety and liability, however when you start your paragraph with

"I spent a better part of 4 years and a butt load of my own cash, with little to no help from anyone to develop "safe load data". I am not willing to "flash" it over the Internet for everyone's consumption.

that leads to a different conclusion by myself and, by the posts, by at least someone else.

Let's chalk it up to a good but not completely 100% concise post on the part of the writer (you) and selective reading and focus on the reader (me). No point in fighting over a subject were we both have the same interest and same ultimate goal.

As mentioned, PM sent for information.

Thanks.
 
For your viewing pleasure..

14.5 projo's (.585") 1000gr on left, 1200gr on right:

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14.5x114 on PTRS 5 round clip. .30-06 dummy below for size comparison:

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14.5x114 with .22LR (on left)

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Various 14.5 projo's (blue one is 750gr):

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