Anyone try a 22 lr on coyotes

pescador said:
How good are you at calling in coyotes that "barrel heat up issues" are a problem for you? like are packs of 30 coming in at one time and you are doing mag dumps? i dont understand how this could be an issue when your coyote hunting.
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We'd moved-on to the conversation about 17s, and I was thinking of 17 Hornet vs 17 Fireball, etc. No hoards of coyotes or groundhogs rushing me, nor was that even the suggestion. However, if target shooting...or contemplating a good .17 centerfire to head west with (=gopher country) I think 17H would be a great choice.

For gophers, 17HMR is plenty of course. Just never really warmed-up to 17HMR, or found it to be as deadly a caliber on small game. Just hasn't been my experience.
 
Took my son to country nockey tournament and one of the billet players took our dog for a walk in a blizzard,next thing dog lost.week later get him back because a vet recognized the lost dog from us spreading information.the people who found the dog took it to the vet,long story short he must of been on a farmers land and he put a 22lr slug in him.it was in there until he passed 9 years later.
 
One cannot even compare the effectiveness of a .17 compared to a .22.

I some nasty .17 gopher hit photos if you guys want to see, but a .22 just cannot come close to.

Barrel heating up with .17? Never had that happen as I actually take less shots with my .17 as opposed to my .22, only thing the .17s do poor is in wind.

Never had any interest in .17s until I was completely outclassed at a gopher derby with my trusty .22, we all run .17s now.
 
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.22LRGUY said:
We'd moved-on to the conversation about 17s, and I was thinking of 17 Hornet vs 17 Fireball, etc. No hoards of coyotes or groundhogs rushing me, nor was that even the suggestion. However, if target shooting...or contemplating a good .17 centerfire to head west with (=gopher country) I think 17H would be a great choice.

For gophers, 17HMR is plenty of course. Just never really warmed-up to 17HMR, or found it to be as deadly a caliber on small game. Just hasn't been my experience.
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you still havent explained how barrel temp would be a factor during a hunting situation ... "How is 17hmr not as deadly on small game"? ive seen coyotes get dropped, lynx also with 17hmr they didnt take a single step. also have seen grouse and rabbits have their heads popped right off. either you haven't spent much time with one in the field or you aren't making good shots. i don't think i've ever heard anyone say 17hmr is not extremely effective its definitely a better option for coyotes than 22lr in terms of rimfire options. but that wasnt the question the op was asking

So have you killed any coyotes/lynx/bobcats with .22lr? i have, and have been present for a coyote getting shot inside 100yds with a 22lr. it works well if you understand the limits of the .22lr and make a good shot into the vitals just like any other caliber for that matter. dead is dead.... im sure 17h is a great round and super effective, but that wasn't the OP's question.

the question was wether it was possible to kill a coyote with 22lr at 100yds. the answer seems to be "Absolutely yes" according to people who have actually done it.

put it this way 22lr at a 100yds could easily kill a 180lb human. so why would it be less effective on a 30-40 lb dog? the 18-20lb lynx i killed with 22lr this past winter at 50 yds had the round enter and exit. it dropped and died instantly. plenty of power from the .22 for the job. in fact i would change my ammo next time to a soft lead projectile to get more expansion next time, or some sort of segmented hollow point,
 
problem with stingers i find out of my 10/22 is the group gets bigger= more room for error. it is however more reliable than any other ammo i,ve used ive shot about 100 without a single issue,. cant say the same for some other bulk brands. mini mags are also good
 
Grouping is not an issue to me on a Coyote at 50 yards, velocity and expansion is though, especially with a .22. If I want accuracy I pull out my Anschutz bolt and Eley standard velocity ammo, but this is about being humane as possible. But as said before the .17 does it so much better.
 
pescador said:
problem with stingers i find out of my 10/22 is the group gets bigger= more room for error. it is however more reliable than any other ammo i,ve used ive shot about 100 without a single issue,. cant say the same for some other bulk brands. mini mags are also good
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Another factor here I believe is the just so so accuracy of the standard Ruger 10/22.
Sure it's a reliable firearm to feed fire eject, however I think thier barrels were not up to snuff.

Example I had a Winchester 490 that would readily outshoot the 10/22 at normal gopher shooting distances.
It's only the volume of shooting without jamming a dirty 22 that the Ruger outclassed the Winchester.

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Oldly said:
Took my son to country nockey tournament and one of the billet players took our dog for a walk in a blizzard,next thing dog lost.week later get him back because a vet recognized the lost dog from us spreading information.the people who found the dog took it to the vet,long story short he must of been on a farmers land and he put a 22lr slug in him.it was in there until he passed 9 years later.
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Well whoever shot ur dog is a LOWLIFE SCUMBAG. I live in farm country and occassionally a stray dog causes problems but theyre are ways to deal with things other than shooting the animal. If its a recurring problem and theyre killing livestock,well thats a different deal. If your going to kill something then kill it ethically and efficiently. PERIOD. So back to the original question and no a 22 rimfire is not the gun for Coyotes. As mentioned earlier moose and caribou are shot with 22 rimfires but theyre not the proper firearm for the task at hand. I love the Mach 2 on vermin to a certain distance and then turn too the 17HMR and beyond that it becomes 204 and then 22-250 and then 6BR or 243WIN.
 
pescador said:
you still havent explained how barrel temp would be a factor during a hunting situation ... "How is 17hmr not as deadly on small game"? ive seen coyotes get dropped, lynx also with 17hmr they didnt take a single step. also have seen grouse and rabbits have their heads popped right off. either you haven't spent much time with one in the field or you aren't making good shots. i don't think i've ever heard anyone say 17hmr is not extremely effective its definitely a better option for coyotes than 22lr in terms of rimfire options. but that wasnt the question the op was asking

So have you killed any coyotes/lynx/bobcats with .22lr? i have, and have been present for a coyote getting shot inside 100yds with a 22lr. it works well if you understand the limits of the .22lr and make a good shot into the vitals just like any other caliber for that matter. dead is dead.... im sure 17h is a great round and super effective, but that wasn't the OP's question.

the question was wether it was possible to kill a coyote with 22lr at 100yds. the answer seems to be "Absolutely yes" according to people who have actually done it.

put it this way 22lr at a 100yds could easily kill a 180lb human. so why would it be less effective on a 30-40 lb dog? the 18-20lb lynx i killed with 22lr this past winter at 50 yds had the round enter and exit. it dropped and died instantly. plenty of power from the .22 for the job. in fact i would change my ammo next time to a soft lead projectile to get more expansion next time, or some sort of segmented hollow point,
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"As deadly" being the operative words. Looks like you're keen on having a debate about it, I simply am not. I've done what I've done, and seen what I've seen pescador-and I've arrived at my own opinions on what I'll use for what, and why. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, nor have I suggested that barrel heat will be an issue if hunting with HMR/17 Hornet. I've done high-volume gopher work with an HMR, and have shot plenty of groundhogs with 17 Hornet

The volume of 22 I shoot, and the accuracy I get with the caliber suits me 100% fine. I haven't had occasion to aim at a coyote with a 22, and never said that I did. I only chimed in on this thread because I find the idea of using (almost) the lowest-power option on coyotes to be highly misleading. When I read the ringing endorsements, I picture a new hunter reading the comments and taking his pea shooter out...and lobbing a 40gr SV round at a coyote 100 yards away with open sights in a 40km/hr cross wind. Again, I have no love for coyotes necessarily, but I wish there were more facts/guidance and less bravado on gun forums sometimes.

22LR is my favorite caliber if I'm totally honest, and I'd love nothing more for it to be a super power/capable of anything. If I had one trying to chew on my leg and all I had was a 22, of course I'd trust it for the job. I'm talking people PLANNING hunts, reading this thread, and coming away from it thinking 22LR is a great/decent/ethical choice.

If you think it is, we'll agree to disagree.
 
I have brought this up before...some will flame away, some will not. Meh, the ball is in your court.
If you are not shooting a coyote for its pelt, does it matter on the death? A 22 will surely kill it. Now or in a bit, as long as your shot placement isn't purely careless.
Shooting a coyote is for convenience. Some just do not like them. Some harass your livestock. If the latter is your concern, why let the thing continue to harass what you are hoping to protect? Kill it and make sure. Close the distance or use something that ensures better results.
 
Not a clean kill unless it is a headshot. Yes, they will die, but not a quick death. I took two fox and one coyote with a 22LR, back when I was focussed on dollars as a kid when hides were at a premium. But now, no way in hell unless I have a headshot. Just an opinion and its mine, not anyone else's so don't be upset when y'all read it.
 
.22LRGUY said:
Very much a "can" vs. "should" question. Other than 17M2, there probably ISN'T a caliber more poorly-suited to coyote hunting than 22LR. I wouldn't even shoot a groundhog with one and believe me, I have plenty of opportunities to do that.
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Can't agree totally... as with any choice, you have to be realistic about what your choice is capable of, and then allow some margin within those parameters. Having bowhunted my entire life, I understand the concept of intentionally handicapping oneself in pursuit of game, there are sacrifices you make in accepting the challenge. If going that route, you have to be prepared to "NOT" squeeze the trigger rather than push the margins too far, and be ok with going home empty handed. I have shot dozens of coyotes with various .22 LR rifles... most were just shots of opportunity, but I have on a few occasions, when hunting in the bush, chosen a .22 LR... it does handicap more than just range, also shot placement must be precise and body posture of the coyote must be "open" to receive a lung shot. Below is a picture of a coyote that I shot more than forty years ago with an old Mossberg 151K .22 LR.
 

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Meh.

The coyotes I shot with a .22, ended up just as dead, and just as fast, as the dogs I shot with the same .22.

Anyone need a collar? I have some spares. Nobody ever came looking... Which says about all you need to know about the dog's 'owners'.

After having a lamb torn apart in front of a bunch of kids, a couple dead ewes, and several more with injuries, I still have 'some' patience for dealing with wandering dogs. Just not when they decide that chasing my stock is fun!

Given the number of idiots that think it's appropriate to dump a cat or box of kittens out along the roadside to 'make their own way', I can certainly relate to the guy that just shot a free running dog.

I have no problem accepting that one day it might be MY dog. But I take pains to make sure my dog has a collar with contact info and "Reward!" info on it, and the dogs I own are seldom left unsupervised for more than a few minutes.
 
Ive hit one at 500 yards watched it get hit in the ass did about 7 spins and ran away at 500 just would have stung like a beach!
Was cool to watch! Good laughs.
 
Amelio said:
One of my dads friends has quite a bit of property on hamilton mountain. He says he shoots coyotes all the time at a 100 yards with a 22lr. Chest shot.That they drop right away.

He's a credible person I've know him since I was a kid. He doesn't lie or exagerate . I've never heard anyone using 22lr for coyotes and performing well. Anyone have similar experience?
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My grandfather was a butcher and they killed a lot of beef cattle,I have seen a 2500 lb bull killed instantly with a .22 ,they used .22 short shells if you imagine that.of course they all knew exactly where to aim..22 long rifle would tend to bounce right off their skulls ,where .22 shorts did not.

The amount of animals they butchered,nobody was spending money on center fire shells.if it can kill a big bull ,a coyote is do able.
 
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