Anyone using a DPM recoil kit?
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I have just received my Glock17 version on Tuesday. Installing it on was quite a work-out first time. I installed the gold spring didn't notice much of a diff in the slide pull compare to OEM guide rod. Unfortunately I probably wont' have time to test out the gun this weekend. It is Chinese New Year and I have family business to deal with whole weekend. Will give a review as soon as I get a chance to test it. Overall, it is pretty smooth and a little bit heavier than OEM rod. The only down side so far is that installing the kit is definitely not as easy compare to OEM rod.
Btw, if anyone is interested any gun #### may be I can post up some pic with it installed.
Btw, if anyone is interested any gun #### may be I can post up some pic with it installed.
Very interested in this waiting to see outcome and pics
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Just got one for my PPQ. Haven't been able to shoot it as the outdoor has been closed due to weather...
K folks, back from the range this morning. Here is some very general first impression. You may call it placebo effect but I definitely felt the double tapping speed increased using the DPM rod. Is it a miracle tool? No. If I have to give it a % I would say may be 20% to 30% better? Good thing is that there was absolutely zero FTF or FTE or any kind of operating error. I also found the felt recoil reduction is definitely less when using 124gr vs 115gr. In fact, the 124gr now feels like the 115 using an OEM Glock. At least to me I felt the change. I might do a more scientific test later to have my friend randomly change the guide rod without telling me and see I can feel the different between that. I forgot to bring the OEM guide rod today but hopefully I will do more test next week. I am happy... so far.
Tried one a couple years ago for a couple months, no noticeable difference between it and the stock recoil spring but found splits were a hair faster when using a lighter recoil spring on the stock guide rod.
Reducing the weight of the recoil spring allows the slide to move easier putting less pressure on the frame which reduces felt recoil, increasing the recoil spring will cause the slide to apply more pressure and increase felt recoil. Most shooters running IPSC min pf ammo run between 9 and 11 lb recoil springs.
Reducing the weight of the recoil spring allows the slide to move easier putting less pressure on the frame which reduces felt recoil, increasing the recoil spring will cause the slide to apply more pressure and increase felt recoil. Most shooters running IPSC min pf ammo run between 9 and 11 lb recoil springs.
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Got out to try it in my P99, It comes with the 2 springs one for heavy and one for light loads, It suggested starting with the heavy spring, The heavy spring worked and cycled fine but the recoil felt the same if not a little more, Switched to the lighter spring and wow what a difference, Way lighter.
I was confused as I thought the heavier the spring would = Less recoil, but its not so, Your hands and wrist have to absorb the energy from the heavier spring.
Also I disagree with some on different grain ammo, 115 I find the most snappy, 124 less so and 147 not snappy at all, And with the lighter spring shooting 115's was way different and less felt recoil, although I still prefer 124gr.
This is my opinion on it, yours my vary, But it will definitely be staying in there for top pistol and 3 gun matches.
I was confused as I thought the heavier the spring would = Less recoil, but its not so, Your hands and wrist have to absorb the energy from the heavier spring.
Also I disagree with some on different grain ammo, 115 I find the most snappy, 124 less so and 147 not snappy at all, And with the lighter spring shooting 115's was way different and less felt recoil, although I still prefer 124gr.
This is my opinion on it, yours my vary, But it will definitely be staying in there for top pistol and 3 gun matches.
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I have them in 3 of my pistols and I did not notice any perceivable difference in the way they shoot or cycle. $270 for a better quality spring and guide. Personally I would suggest them as a replacement after a failure of the original unit.
Hard to recommend them as an upgrade.
Candocad.
Hard to recommend them as an upgrade.
Candocad.
I had one on my G17....honestly not that much difference. I say grip will still control your recoil best, save the $90. It may be good for a new shooter to help with recoil, but if you've fired 500 or so rounds you should have a good idea about recoil. Shooting 124gr also helps. JMHO
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I have one in my Girsan Beretta 92F clone and its very nice. Not day and night, but for sure something to talk about.
less recoil noted, not that it was bad before, but its like its shooting .380 or something Maybe a weak .38 special load.
quick followups too, but I don't use it for IDPA so I can't really compare it with any numbers that way.
No failures of any kind, but then that didn't change. Never had ONE failure of any kind with this pistol anyways.
looks well made.
the pistol is super easy to disassemble, but this makes it maybe even easier? toss up, but still no problem at all.
I think they are a bit expensive, but not too bad.
less recoil noted, not that it was bad before, but its like its shooting .380 or something Maybe a weak .38 special load.
quick followups too, but I don't use it for IDPA so I can't really compare it with any numbers that way.
No failures of any kind, but then that didn't change. Never had ONE failure of any kind with this pistol anyways.
looks well made.
the pistol is super easy to disassemble, but this makes it maybe even easier? toss up, but still no problem at all.
I think they are a bit expensive, but not too bad.
I had been using mine for a few weeks and to be honest, switch back to your OEM one after I used the DPM for a period of time. I have to say it definitely let me do a mag dump faster on average with the DPM with certain kind of ammo (read on...).
It doesn't seem to really reduce the felt recoil or reduce the flip angle. I think that part is kinda BS now. I think the DPM has stronger recoil springs so the recovery time for slide come back is faster compare to OEM rod thus it allows you to shoot faster up to a certain speed. If you just doing single shot slowly you probably won't feel any difference at all. At first I didn't feel any diff until I tried to do a mag dump (as fast as possible but try to be accurate as possible). For my case it allows me to do it slightly faster with the red dot go back on target faster. I think may be there are also some factors to this too so diff people have diff experience. Trying it on reduced recoil rounds the effect is way less noticeable for me. I tried this on the XMetal which has I felt has stronger kick (at least in my experience that is...) compare to the ammo that I have tried like CCI , FOC or Sumbro and XMetal gave me the most noticeable diff. Still this diff is not really huge huge and as I said before it is not miracle maker. It turns my XMetal more feel like shooting CCI. Also, it also depends on the gun you use. I used a Glock17 to test all these. I also fired a Shadow2 with the same ammo fefore and the Shadow2 by default already felt less recoil without doing anything. So may be this has a more noticeable effect on plastic guns?
At the end, this could be all BS afterall. May be my mind is tricking me into feeling I can now shoot faster. Things like these happen to people with new golf clubs and tennis racquets etc. But hey, if it feels like it works it works until it is no longer working.... And YES it is waayyyyyy overpriced
Do you have to have it? NAH....
It doesn't seem to really reduce the felt recoil or reduce the flip angle. I think that part is kinda BS now. I think the DPM has stronger recoil springs so the recovery time for slide come back is faster compare to OEM rod thus it allows you to shoot faster up to a certain speed. If you just doing single shot slowly you probably won't feel any difference at all. At first I didn't feel any diff until I tried to do a mag dump (as fast as possible but try to be accurate as possible). For my case it allows me to do it slightly faster with the red dot go back on target faster. I think may be there are also some factors to this too so diff people have diff experience. Trying it on reduced recoil rounds the effect is way less noticeable for me. I tried this on the XMetal which has I felt has stronger kick (at least in my experience that is...) compare to the ammo that I have tried like CCI , FOC or Sumbro and XMetal gave me the most noticeable diff. Still this diff is not really huge huge and as I said before it is not miracle maker. It turns my XMetal more feel like shooting CCI. Also, it also depends on the gun you use. I used a Glock17 to test all these. I also fired a Shadow2 with the same ammo fefore and the Shadow2 by default already felt less recoil without doing anything. So may be this has a more noticeable effect on plastic guns?
At the end, this could be all BS afterall. May be my mind is tricking me into feeling I can now shoot faster. Things like these happen to people with new golf clubs and tennis racquets etc. But hey, if it feels like it works it works until it is no longer working.... And YES it is waayyyyyy overpriced
Do you have to have it? NAH....
