Anything Wrong With Shooting Long Range?

Only if you don't improve with practice!

Condemning any part of the sport is a slippery slope greased by the antis!

By comparison, most criminals use firearms from speeding cars or other "cover", they lack the patience or wit to build the skills required to be long range shooters.
 
Max Owner said:
Hey all.

Is there anything wrong with shooting long range? Practicing?

I know that it is frowned apon(sp) because people think you want to be a sniper. Thought came up, after a conversation with my boss. He's a shooter aswell.
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People with thought processes like that are NOT worth worring over, for they lack many brain cells. " Is practising at ANY demanding discipline of any sport bad?? " would be my question.
I shoot extreme long range, both target practice mostly but hunting as well during the tremendously short season in the fall. Do I get on my Gillie suit to practice? No because it is stinking uncomfortable and hot. I guess the true redneck in me shows , but to be questioned whether anyone can be too accurate at long distance for any reason seems to me like a moron is doing the asking. The greater skill required for long range shooting upsets some, who are just plain not up to the challenge or task
 
lol.. no.
I often laugh at people who have these magnificent scopes capable of seeing the other side of the moon, and the guys are shooting 50 yards. That doesnt make any sense to me. If you want to be a better shooter, you must practice at various ranges. How else will you be able to make a shot while hunting... gee the deer is 250 yards away, and I only feel comfortable with 100 yds....
If I see someone shoot long range, I am impressed by their skill.. not the opposite.
 
If a person shoots in competition at 6, 8 ,9 and 1,000+meters, why should he not practice at those ranges.
I see nothing wrong with shooting long, however, I do have an issue with those that hunt at extended ranges without practicing and being able to hit at the distances they shoot at.
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Max Owner said:
I know that it is frowned apon(sp) because people think you want to be a sniper.
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If you sat in your garage, would people drivng by think you want to be a car? :D
I am a long range target shooter and the targets I shoot at are round. I have never had to stalk them on the range.
When hunting there isn't too much I will pass up, as I know I can make the shot. I have confidence in my rifle and my ability to make that shot because I practice.
 
We were talking about some places the boss said he had found while quading or trucking around. Good places to shoot long range where it won't bother anyone of get them upset. Got me thinking......

There aren't really any ranges that are open to the public (it seems) where you can go in and practice, anytime you want. They are all organised events. The 800 yard range in Winona ON is DND range. The only way to get in there to shoot is become a member of the Ontario Rifle Association. Just an example.

I remember a long time ago that the legal mentallity was against people doing long range shooting. I certainly hope to get into it. And get good at it.
 
My biggest fear as a builder of extreme long range rifles is that someone will have an accident, shooting on non controlled land, such as a long cut line, and someone out hiking or tree hugging walks out at the wrong moment. Shooting long range has some added concerns to be certain. I have a hard time understanding many of the shooting organizations, IE APRA who have facilities where long range shooting can be conducted in a safe environment, yet they "choose" to limit the calibers that are truly long range capable due to their own personal beliefs or ignorance of what bigger calibers "really" do to back stops.
In todays age of anti gun, an accident on public land that involved a "sniper" rifle ( what ever that is construed by the media to be that day) would be a real blow to our sport.
It seems to me that the government needs to be pushed HARD to open more shooting facilities, we already have plenty of golf courses, maybe it should be our turn now??
 
"...on a cutline, shooting long distances..." You're right. Ontario Hydro, or whatever it's called now, usually 'posts' their right of ways. So you could be charged with trespass. And you'd be shooting in a totally uncontrolled place. You'd have no idea if and when somebody could stroll out from behind or in front of your target and/or in the fall zone that you can't see.
Hunting isn't the same as ranges are generally much shorter. Any good hunter doesn't shoot unless he knows it's safe to do so.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
It seems to me that the government needs to be pushed HARD to open more shooting facilities, we already have plenty of golf courses, maybe it should be our turn now??
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Maybe we could publish here the steps necessary to build and open a range in the various provinces, I would like to see a 1500 meter range in Ontario.
 
The big problem in Ontario is the fact that unless "The Range" you are shooting it is approved by the CFO inspectors, it is not allowed to shoot there. Be very careful, the days of going out to the local gravel pit and plinking cans are over.

But is it silly to shoot long range, not at all.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
In todays age of anti gun, an accident on public land that involved a "sniper" rifle ( what ever that is construed by the media to be that day) would be a real blow to our sport.
It seems to me that the government needs to be pushed HARD to open more shooting facilities, we already have plenty of golf courses, maybe it should be our turn now??
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Speaking of the media, I caught the CTV bimbo, (can't remember her name), reading the news of our registry victory yesterday. Her displeasure at the notion was more than a little obvious. Of course she couldn't leave the subject without planting some "anti" lies like how hard pecker in love every cop in the nation is with the current long gun registry. "Bull####"!

I couldn't agree with "Alberta Tactical Rifle" more. We need to "push hard" for what we want and what we know to be right. Furthermore, defending the status quo is defeatist strategy. Defending our sport against anti lies about public safety and law enforcement issues will, I'm convinced, lead to our extinction over time. We cannot continue to pit sporting rights against safety (lies). We shooters know darn well the benefits of establishing the right of honest, Canadian citizens to persue not just our sporting interests but our rights to self defense and a peaceful society.

What we want is unrestricted ownership rights, CCW rights, and the right to practice whatever in hell we choose to safely practice. We aren't harming anybody and curtiling us isn't helping anybody, so there's no need to be timid. It just makes us look, and feel, irrelevant.

There, that feels better, :) :) :p .
 
Max Owner said:
Could get yourself in trouble to be on a cutline, shooting long distances.
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I dont see how you could get in trouble if its legal (and in Ontario it most certaily is) and you are shooting to a good backstop and take precautions to watch for hikers and so on.

I practice long range on a hydro corridor. I can get out to 700m here. Its a really perfect spot. Its a dead end trail so traffic no concern and there is nice ridges for backstops and its in the middle of nowhere.

I have had a CO come along when I was shooting and all he was interested in was that my rifle was being locked in the truck when I went down range. (it was).

There are no ranges longer than 100yds anywhere near me and there is a million clearcuts that are perfect, only makes sense to me. Even if there were ranges with 1000yrd capability I really would rather be by myself.
 
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alberta tactical rifle said:
It seems to me that the government needs to be pushed HARD to open more shooting facilities, we already have plenty of golf courses, maybe it should be our turn now??
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ATR, you have a point. However if you think about public golf courses and the money they generate, shooting ranges don't even come close. I also don't know of any government operated golf courses.
We do need ranges, but can't and don't really want the government to run them for us. We need to do this as shooters for ourselves. This will take a ton on money.
A golfer thinks nothing of dropping say $100 a day for golf. 18 holes, a cart, a few beers, a sleeve of balls, a package of tees, lunch and few more beers afterwards.
Some (most) shooters are cheap. They ##### about $100 yearly membership fee for their club. Some wouldn't enter a match if it cost more then $10 and won't drive 300 Km to get there. If you could charge everyone $100 a day for shooting and there was as many shooters as there are golfers, we would have ranges all over the countryside.
 
maynard said:
A golfer thinks nothing of dropping say $100 a day for golf. 18 holes, a cart, a few beers, a sleeve of balls, a package of tees, lunch and few more beers afterwards.

Some (most) shooters are cheap. They ##### about $100 yearly membership fee for their club. Some wouldn't enter a match if it cost more then $10 and won't drive 300 Km to get there.
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Good point and I agree....but golf courses also cost hundreds of millions of dollars to build. A beauty range could be built for likely less than the initial cost of the land to build it on.
 
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