applying a .002" choke to the muzzle of a rifle barrel for accuracy

Bobby Ironsights

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Hi, I noticed that many of the rifle barrel blanks offered by lothar walther have a choke of .002" at the muzzle for maximum accuracy.

I knew thqt it was important, but then I got to thinking, what about all those benchrest guys who take a couple inches off their barrel at the muzzle and recrown...

How does one put a new choke on a precision rifle barrel?

Thanks for your time,
Bobby.
 
Precision rifle barrels don't have a choke but are of uniform size from breech to muzzle. Choked barrels were advantageous in the days of the muzzle loading match rifle but not with jacketed bullets. When somebody starts winning BR matches with a choked barrel, I'll start paying attention.
A .002" choke is way much. If a barrel was to be choked and used with jacketed bullets, I would think .0002-.0004 would be more appropriate. Regards, Bill.
 
Taking a couple inches off a bench rest rimfire barrel is always a bad idea, unless it is done from the chamber end of course. You could (possibly) use a set of adjustable rollers to restore the choke.
 
Hi, I noticed that many of the rifle barrel blanks offered by lothar walther have a choke of .002" at the muzzle for maximum accuracy.

I knew thqt it was important, but then I got to thinking, what about all those benchrest guys who take a couple inches off their barrel at the muzzle and recrown...

How does one put a new choke on a precision rifle barrel?

Thanks for your time,
Bobby.

it's not that the muzzle is "choked", rather the bore of the barrel is tapered internally along it's whole length.

While Mr. Leeper doesn't seem to think that it's important or common, it apparently features as a regular topic in "precision shooting" magazine, (according to my accuracy loon friend who subscribes).

To a certain extent, I would agree that a perfectly concentric & regular barrel should shoot quite well, unfortunately nothing in this world is truely perfect. Far too often bore dimentions vary along the length of a barrel. The worst possible case is if the barrel expands in diameter near the muzzle.

My understanding is that the process of lapping a barrel tends to to impart this feature (though possibly as an unintended by-product).
 
The way it is done is to button rifle a barrel that has a reverse taper on the outside and then profile it afterwards. It may work for an Anschutz rf barrel but I doubt it beyond that for cf. Want to find out what works then look at what is winning. You will have a very hard time reinventing the wheel (gun). Anyone can publish an article and he may or may not know what day it is.
 
Once you get into barrel making it isn't as though bench rest makers have had the budget to try every conceivable option. Hammer rifling machines are pretty expensive. It is amazing, however, how primative a rifling machine can make match grade barrels.
 
Precision rifle barrels don't have a choke but are of uniform size from breech to muzzle.
. Regards, Bill.


Penti louensa the head tech of sako in finland would differ with you on that. On many occasions he tells me they used to boast an air gauge barrel but now choke a few tenths close to muzzle to copensate for low QC by bullet maufacturers. Mind you .002 is a tad much I think. You sure on that number? There isnt another 0 in there?
 
I stand by my original statement regarding precision barrels as used for jacketed bullets. Blackstar was using a technique to impart a gradual taper (very, very slight; not .002") to barrels they got from Lothar Walther. In the brochure, these were the best barrels ever. On the range, they did nearly as well as the conventional barrels against which they competed.
The process of lapping a barrel does not impart this feature unless it intended by the worker to do so. Even then, it's not likely anybody can produce a consistent taper with a lap. A choke can be produced relatively easily (I say "relatively"; bring a lunch)
Precision barrels are used with precision bullets. Such bullets have no problems with quality control which might be corrected by a choked bore. Bullets within a couple tenths either way of groove diameter perform equally well.
Hammer forging machines are expensive and, on top of that, don't necessarily produce the best barrels although they certainly can. Barrels by Swiss Arms are superb. Barrels by Remington vary from superb to pitiful. Note that Remington elected to button rifle their 40xbr barrels and, at the time, they did have both the budget and the machinery.
Harry Pope built his barrels with a gradual taper from breech to muzzle but these barrels were built for use with lead bullets, preferably loaded from the muzzle. When he got involved with the production of barrels for jacketed bullets, the tapered bore was abandoned.
Modern benchrest barrels and bullets are capable of producing accuracy at the 1/10 moa level or better and have been for 30 years. These are parallel bores; no taper. This, then, is the mark to be equalled or bettered. When a manufacturer, be they from America, Europe, Australia,or Asia, beats this with different methodology, I'm all ears. By the way, this means beating it in the real world, not in the manufacturer's brochure or some "pie-in-the-sky" article espousing theory in Precision shooting. Regards, Bill.
 
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