approaching Wild Dog hunting like a Coyote hunt

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CGN, i see you guys literally targetting these wild Wolves and Coyotes over there, it amazes me.......... as an australian, typically those sort of animals are oppertunistic shots whilst hunting for other game, like Deer.... an a wild dog pops up.
The Foxes can be whistled up a bit like Your Coyotes with a variety of squeelers , squeekers and predator calls..........

Im wondering what your thoughts might be in regards to hunting the "Dingo" or Wild Dog Cross , a bit more like a Coyote?

Our Dogs are elusive, cunning and not silly... however they are Also hungry......

My particular Woods does not have a Deer problem anymore due to those Bush Fires , however i still love the bush and being in it, So i want to target the Dog a bit more.....


Are your Coyotes a Shy animal who prefer to go unoticed, slip through the shadows , wait until after dark before coming to private lands, a bit stand off-ish when a carcass is placed until some time later?
do they move around a bit even though in one home range?


My hunting ground scenerio is typical forest country you might see in some of my photos, a little thicker than average but i do have some private land oppertunities to maybe set up something.


What is some methods you would use for bush hunting a Coyote?

is walking an calling of some sort worth it? still hunting but say squeeking or 'calling' for 10-15 mins at a time?

setting up a carcass to stalk in an around on early AM with the right breeze? perhaps a good option for corner of private land.

stake out the Den for hours, often?

Howling is ok for finding Dogs in the AM an or PM, it does work to bring them in at times but you got to know what ya doing.

i think i want to invest in some sort of mouth callers? an some face camo.. :)


any thoughts on these wild dog down under an how to approach them?

cheers
Rhys

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If you have access to an ecaller it might be worth a shot. I'd think they're feeding on much the same variety of animals as the coyotes we have here. Or if there's anything specific they like, find a sound clip of it dying or in distress and play it over a speaker.

Most coyote calling is done in "sets". Setup, call for 10-30 minutes, pickup and find another spot, start again.
 
I would think you'd have success with either baiting or calling depending what you have time for. Do the wild dogs do a lot of scavenging or mostly rabbit hunting etc?

Wolves and coyotes are some of the most wary and sharp critters running around so I would assume your wild dogs are just as likely to follow their stomach to a fatal mistake.

As you mentioned whatever you try you have to mind the wind at all times and watch for them sneaking downwind before committing.

As mentioned an electric caller would be my go to and making sets in a likely location where they will hear you and moving a few miles before the next stand.

Looking forward to following this, good luck.
 
Our coyotes here (in Southern Ontario anyway) are pretty cautious/skittish animals. They certainly want to keep away from humans. They are most active at night, mostly hide in the bush or fence lines during the day. Some say they are the smartest animals to hunt. (I think wolfs would be the toughest though)
Those wild dogs you posted look really cool, some great colours on them.
I am willing to bet it would be no different in calling them into a call then we do here for our coyotes.... Setup in a location with a good vantage point, making sure the wind is in your favour, scream out as loud as you can with some sort of dying animal (rabbit is a good one) sound for 30-40 seconds then wait a minute or two and repeat the process for about 30 minutes, nothing shows up, move on to another location.
That new calling location (depending on the strength of the wind) can be as little as 2-300 yds.... then repeat the process... I am sure if you did this you would have enough success to keep at it....
Getting into position undetected is a lot more important than the type of dying animal sound you make. Dogs, they are curious and if they feel unthreatened should come in to investigate any distress sound you make.
Good luck and looking forward to some of your successes.
 
I find it "odd" that you refer to dingoes as "dogs". Our "dog" - the family pet - is mostly an Australian Cattle Dog - a Red Heeler - a dog breed which was created in late 1880's (?) by Australia rancher who crossed some sort of Scottish herding dog with the wild dingoes. Obviously, very closely related to domestic dogs if they can produce fertile offspring. Those colourings that you show appear on many of the Australian Cattle Dogs that I see here in Canada - Red Heelers and Blue Heelers - obviously "throw back" to their dingo origins. Is an issue in some areas here of guys who seldom venture into the bush not being able to identify the difference between a domestic dog and a coyote or wolf - first hint should have been that the wild ones do not normally wear collars, but the mishaps seem to happen every so often. In many of the rural areas where I have lived, pretty important to NOT mess with somebody else's dog...

I had read that most of the "wild dogs" in Australia these days, are actually dingoes cross-bred with feral domestic dogs - apparently somewhat unusual these days to find DNA pure dingoes. Just what I had read here.
 
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Our coyotes here (in Southern Ontario anyway) are pretty cautious/skittish animals. They certainly want to keep away from humans. They are most active at night, mostly hide in the bush or fence lines during the day. Some say they are the smartest animals to hunt. (I think wolfs would be the toughest though)
Those wild dogs you posted look really cool, some great colours on them.
I am willing to bet it would be no different in calling them into a call then we do here for our coyotes.... Setup in a location with a good vantage point, making sure the wind is in your favour, scream out as loud as you can with some sort of dying animal (rabbit is a good one) sound for 30-40 seconds then wait a minute or two and repeat the process for about 30 minutes, nothing shows up, move on to another location.
That new calling location (depending on the strength of the wind) can be as little as 2-300 yds.... then repeat the process... I am sure if you did this you would have enough success to keep at it....
Getting into position undetected is a lot more important than the type of dying animal sound you make. Dogs, they are curious and if they feel unthreatened should come in to investigate any distress sound you make.
Good luck and looking forward to some of your successes.
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They are not dissimilar here in out west in Alberta....lots of good advice in the post above. I would only add that depending on the tightness of the terrain and bush, you might want to start calling softly in case there is a wild dog somewhere close. Last addition would be to burn holes in the oculars of your binoculars as you carefully study the bush in the time between your calling...often you will be surprised at what is looking back and how close it can be.

Lastly, +1 to the awesomeness of the color of the animal in your first pic!

Gratuitous contribution of my Tikka Arctic Scout project getting sussed out on a fur hunt:

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Best,

Brobee
 
Your wild dogs look very much like the 2 pet dogs I have at home. Are they considered a pest the way coyotes are here? I have used a little hand held mouse speaker with success here. Not much range but when they are hungry they come a running.
 
Coyotes in my area can run the whole range of bold to timid, depends on hunting pressure and hunger. I have had them wander through the cow herd out in pasture while we watched, no rifle, as well as come in the yard in daylight. During deer season if they see a truck slow down it's full speed ahead. I have also seen a pack try to lure a dog out of yard for a quick snack. They can get educated to ecallers very fast if to many guys are out and not killing them.
 
I have had great success calling coyotes while using a call sold by Primos called the "deer bleat and bawl". They sell for about $20. It has a metal reed that is well suited to the aggressive calling that I do. I start quietly. If that doesn't work, I make as loud and anguished a call as possible. Also, I call as long as I can, before running out of breath. The coyote isn't necessarily recognizing the call as a deer but is coming in to investigate the critter in distress. If it works for coyotes, it should work for Dingoes?
I always try to set up where I have a good view down wind. Obviously, calling is most effective best on calm mornings. If nothing comes in after 20 minutes I move to a new location.

Whatever method you try, please keep us informed as to your success. I always enjoy reading your posts. Good Luck!
 
yep for the record ive mostly just been still hunting as i do for deer when most of these dogs have shown themselves!

im liking the idea of the 20 minute at each area before moving off, lot of great tips to sponge up.

doin ome internetting on the primos callers, not common in Aus at all... im liking the rabbit stuff.

most food for these buggers are Wallaby an or smallest baby kangaroos--- not entirely sure of their distress but more of a grunt than a squeel.. will look into the wallaby thing more.


alot to type , though i am getting very interested in this, will most likely go an use a "button" whistle on tuesday morning with my 222 an see what happens.
the button whistle is a round tin deal, or i can make a similir one from folded tin with 2 holes... fairly raspy.. may be worth a shot!


il document this in a thread , maybe even here, on the proceedings! an will make a youtube series on my 'dog huntin' affair!

cheers ALL
 
with these cross breds i find once they are howling that i can keep them interested an sometimes coming but always sticking to a tree line or inside the bush edge... the howl is good to locate maybe, but yeah ill try some mouth calls for a closer range tactic-

ive got a few items to take with me now, looking forward to just targetting these things solely .

aded bonus of a govt bounty of $120 per scalp :D makes it a bit worthy too with a measley $10 for a fox as a by catch if im usen rabbit calls
 
Never had problems with foxes, so never really saw the need to go out of my way to bother them.
Gotta say, given the bounty on the dogs, I am surprised there is not an active lot of local knowledge about attracting them in.

Are e-callers legal or available there? There are almost endless variations of noises that get used for drawing in coyotes, ranging from dying rabbit squeals through to deer noises and ersatz contact calls. Lots of mouth calls available, and I figure it'd be none too hard to make a decent clone of them if you can't get one locally.

You allowed to lamp where you are hunting? That'd add a bit in to it, that we don't often get to do here.
 
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