Approximate amount of times you can reuse pistol brass?

Jefferson said:
thanks for joining the conversation, was your last public display of legal knowledge protesting your innocence just before taking a short vacation on her majesty's dime?
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Did you notice the half dozen or more guys who joined the thread and said the exact same thing, that multiple reloads to failure are just fine?


to be blunt if the case explodes or a squib and another right behind it and the gun blows up and injures the owner or user or spectator are you going to be their defence council or the expert witness,it is all fine and dandy until someone loses an eye,
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I don't know if you are a good lawyer or not but I can say that you know SFA about reloading.




a middle aged fellow who now builds gun barrels for a living had his reloads explode and destroy the gun at rocky range a couple of years ago, lucky no one was hurt, would the guy next to him have said, oh I will not sue as the cases would be good for 100 reloads or 30 for a rifle?

accidents do happen and people sue, careful with advice on gun nuts, the op said he is completely new to reloading, so complete proper advice is needed and that takes a page of notes and not some hot shot saying have at it,

the barrel builder will never shoot next to me, ever and if I see him at a range I will make it a point of asking how his ammo he is using was prepared,
and yes I would go so far if the answer was not satisfactory to tell the next person to get up off the bench until I explained his,past behaviour. Range bully, no just careful
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If I was at the bench and you came over to quiz me about my ammo and then tell me to move because you didn't like my reloads, I would reply in no uncertain terms that you could immediately GO FUKC YOURSELF.
 
Suputin said:
A brass cleaner is about the last piece of equipment I'd consider. I reloaded 9mm and 45 for 15 years without ever cleaning a case.
There is no reason to match equipment brands. Buy whatever you want. It will all work together.
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That seems to be a similar opinion to some of the people on this thread https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1501386-Cleaning-brass?p=13336532&highlight=frankford#post13336532

Kinda confusing to a noobie like me with the difference of opinion of what is best to do:
1. Leave it all alone
2. Wipe graphite(may have spelled that wrong) on the neck
3. Use a wet stainless steel media method
4. use the tumbler method but with untreated walnut like in the pet stores/ princess auto
5. The lyman media is just fine and residue deposited by that tumbling method with treated walnut is ok...


too bad theres not one set way to deal with it :bangHead:
 
Jefferson said:
the barrel builder will never shoot next to me, ever and if I see him at a range I will make it a point of asking how his ammo he is using was prepared,
and yes I would go so far if the answer was not satisfactory to tell the next person to get up off the bench until I explained his,past behaviour. Range bully, no just careful
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Hi Jeff,

Sounds like you never made a mistake in your life.
I would assume that the guy you mentioned learned big time from his mistake and won't make the same mistake again.

Bet his blown up rifle had nothing to do with worn out brass...
 
Ice05 said:
That seems to be a similar opinion to some of the people on this thread https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1501386-Cleaning-brass?p=13336532&highlight=frankford#post13336532

Kinda confusing to a noobie like me with the difference of opinion of what is best to do:
1. Leave it all alone
2. Wipe graphite(may have spelled that wrong) on the neck
3. Use a wet stainless steel media method
4. use the tumbler method but with untreated walnut like in the pet stores/ princess auto
5. The lyman media is just fine and residue deposited by that tumbling method with treated walnut is ok...


too bad theres not one set way to deal with it :bangHead:
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I loaded for the first 40 years without a tumbler. And my brass looked like it, too.

I pick up a lot of range brass on outdoor ranges. At home I sort it by caliber and then tumble it for a couple hours. Shiny brass sizes better and does not get dirt into the die to scratch it.

I have a huge Dillon tumbler, half the size of a garbage can and a Large Lyman, that holds about 200 9mm cases.

For the Dillon I use a Dillon separator.

For the Lyman I turn it upside down, over a plastic bin, while it is running and shake. That gets the media out though the grill in the top.
 
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The good and bad about shooting and reloading is that in this sport you will find as many different opinions as stars in the sky. Some people will tell you that the only gun you need is a 30.06 others will say that is overkill and others will say that unless you are shooting 338 Lapua Mag then you aren't really shooting. Learn for yourself what you feel comfortable with. You don't have to do/get everything at once. Start with the basics and build from there as you identify a need. Yes - this is a great place to get info but you don't have to act on it immediately.

Many moons ago when I was shooting for long range accuracy, I was more fastidious about cleaning the brass. Now I just plink, kill paper and shoot Cowboy Action. None of which requires what some people think is needed to ensure consistency out to 1000 yds.

I do still clean my brass so that I can inspect it for faults. If you can determine/detect split necks etc with them dirty then no need to clean them. I am just anal retentive I guess.

Have fun. I enjoy the reloading part - it puts me into a relaxed calm state - call it "Zen and the art of loading bullets" ;o)
 
Ice05 said:
That seems to be a similar opinion to some of the people on this thread https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1501386-Cleaning-brass?p=13336532&highlight=frankford#post13336532

Kinda confusing to a noobie like me with the difference of opinion of what is best to do:
1. Leave it all alone
2. Wipe graphite(may have spelled that wrong) on the neck
3. Use a wet stainless steel media method
4. use the tumbler method but with untreated walnut like in the pet stores/ princess auto
5. The lyman media is just fine and residue deposited by that tumbling method with treated walnut is ok...


too bad theres not one set way to deal with it :bangHead:
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Whatever you do will be fine. Start simple and add equipment over time. I used a dry tumbler for years but then switched to steel pins.

FWIW I am still using the 9m and 45ACP dies that I used with dirty brass for at least 10 years. They still work just fine.
 
if you are picking up range brass in 9mm just be aware that some IPSC shooters load 9mm much over normal pressures and these brass are only good for one or two reloads
other than that i say shoot it till it splits
 
Now I understand why my cop friends dislike lawyers so much.

IF some stranger started quizzing my on my range reloads I really really hope that:

A. I have one of (My God Forbid!!) Damascus barrel SxS shotguns with copious ammo.
B. Much preferably they are down wind from me and if I happen to have my drilling 10x10x45-70 in hand, resulting in three large & billowing clouds of black powder sent their way forthwith. (black soot deposited on their face & such) ;)
 
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Internet tough guy

shows how stupid you are, I would question someone about their reloads is I knew for a fact that they had blown up a gun before

Do not know of anyone asking about reloads looking for trouble,

I wonder how you got your pal with that remark,

the fellow in question still cannot reload worth crap and I would not shoot next to him unless his gunsmith friend did his reloads which he has done and I have helped prep his brass by cleaning and so on

Jeff

Brutus said:
Now I understand why my cop friends dislike lawyers so much.

IF some stranger started quizzing my on my range reloads I really really hope that:

A. I have one of (My God Forbid!!) Damascus barrel SxS shotguns with copious ammo.
B. Much preferably they are down wind from me and if I happen to have my drilling 10x10x45-70 in hand, resulting in three large & billowing clouds of black powder sent their way forthwith. (black soot deposited on their face & such) ;)
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Wrong -o
He still is not a good reloaded,

Brass was part of the problem

everybody can make a mistake but here is the next question you should ask

1. does he get to just walk back onto the range without any question as to steps he has taken to correct the mistake

2. any supervision or probation what does the range do to ensure safety of other members after this accident with this person and see he gets the proper corrective training or is it as you and others suggest a free for all and the range executive then says when being sued ???

3. The guy returns and it happens again and someone gets hurt seriously is the range liable , is the range officer liable, are the range directors liable with their knowledge of the accident with no probation or punishment

good questions and the majority of range directors have no clue

the Alberta societies act only protects directors for reasonable actions not burying their collective heads in the sand

drayton valley range pres and cores told a 20 year old to take his 50 cal bolt action rifle to the range(illegal) and just " not do anything stupid". the kid went to the range and got goatee into showing off and put a half dozen rounds through a tree at 9 feet high with the backstop being a 25 million dollar gas plant facility a few hundred yards away as the shots were fired north instead of at the targets being east of the firing point

we digress but to say what some try to post is silly at best and reta###x at worst

Jeff

bertn said:
Hi Jeff,

Sounds like you never made a mistake in your life.
I would assume that the guy you mentioned learned big time from his mistake and won't make the same mistake again.

Bet his blown up rifle had nothing to do with worn out brass...
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Jefferson said:
Wrong -o

we digress but to say what some try to post is silly at best and retarded at worst

Jeff
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Jefferson, I find it really douchy when someone says they are a lawyer and then gets all smug in their posts. Boring discussions about obscure laws are just that...boring. I think it is overly concerned lawyer types that are choking the fun out of everyday life. Your posts come across like you have to be right at all costs. Give it a rest. Nobody cares.
And, it's not cool to use the term "retarded" any more. You could probably be sued.
 
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LOL

Anyway. To the OP, I would recommend a small tumbler with walnut shell or corn cob medium. Leave the primer in , add 1/3 of fabric softener sheet, tumble for an hour or so and this will knock most of the residue out of the interior and clean up the surface a bit. I find this makes it easier to inspect the brass. You can always upgrade your tumbler later.
 
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Go for the XL650 with a case feeder it works awesome. I have one for 45acp and one for 9mm. I have 2 Lyman 2500 case polishers to keep the brass clean. They hold 6lbs of media and with Maguire's polishing wax the brass is shiny in 2 to 3 hours.
 
I reload about 3000 rounds of 38 SPL every year. I usually replace 3-5% due to cracked/loose primer pocket or chipped case. I replace way more plated case for some reason.
 
sheep100 said:
I reload about 3000 rounds of 38 SPL every year. I usually replace 3-5% due to cracked/loose primer pocket or chipped case. I replace way more plated case for some reason.
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I have noticed the same thing about plated brass, to the point where I sort it out and use it where I won't be recovering the brass, does anyone know why plated brass does not last as long?
 
dilly said:
Jefferson, I find it really douchy when someone says they are a lawyer and then gets all smug in their posts. Boring discussions about obscure laws are just that...boring. I think it is overly concerned lawyer types that are choking the fun out of everyday life. Your posts come across like you have to be right at all costs. Give it a rest. Nobody cares.
And, it's not cool to use the term "retarded" any more. You could probably be sued.
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THIS in spades. Well said. Seriously, NOBODY gives a fukc what the lawyer thinks.
 
kelseyscooter1 said:
I have noticed the same thing about plated brass, to the point where I sort it out and use it where I won't be recovering the brass, does anyone know why plated brass does not last as long?
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I think maybe the plating material isn't as pliable and stress cracks faster than brass...? Anyway whatever the reason I noticed the same thing years ago and avoided it for that reason.
 
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