AR-15 PDW/SBRs prohibited or restricted

[justinchow]

Hey guys, I was just looking for a bit of clarification. So, AR-15s we know are all restricted, that much is clear. However, my question concerns PDWs/SBRs that are built.

So, Section b. of a prohibited firearm states:
"a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,
is less than 660 mm in length, or
is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,"

So by this definition, building an SBR/PDW that is less than 660mm shouldn't be considered prohibited. However, If you take a 10.5" SBR or a 7.5" PDW and swap the stock to a CCS stock is that considered modifying your rifle? As doing so will make it less than 660mm, which by definition is considered prohibited. Or by that token, if I take a 16" rifle and switch the barrel to a 7.5" barrel, would that considered an alteration? I guess it's that "or any other alteration" grab all statement that's throwing me for a little loop.

Thanks

 

[alpha niner]

If they already exist I say still restricted...example below

http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_24_284&products_id=3254

Uppers can be switched from PDW (7") to DMR (20") and still be restricted.

 

[Waynetheman]

I think what you quoted applies to restricteds instead.

"Definition of a restricted firearm

According to the Criminal Code, a restricted firearm is:

a firearm that
is not a prohibited firearm,
has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and
is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner,
a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise, or
a firearm of any other kind that is prescribed to be a restricted firearm"

 

[Waynetheman]

So expanding on this. Ar15 fits all of those especially the last line prescribed to be restricted.

 

[justinchow]

So expanding on this. Ar15 fits all of those especially the last line prescribed to be restricted.

Cool thanks, I think also, they say that AR15s and any variant are restricted by name.... I guess I won't worry about it, thanks guys!

 

[Boomer686]

AR's are restricted including SBR's. Have no worry. Just buy one / build it. shoot and enjoy. They are a lot of fun.

 

[justinchow]

AR's are restricted including SBR's. Have no worry. Just buy one / build it. shoot and enjoy. They are a lot of fun.

Best advice I've heard all week! Lol!

 

[84wh1]

Hey guys, I was just looking for a bit of clarification. So, AR-15s we know are all restricted, that much is clear. However, my question concerns PDWs/SBRs that are built.

So, Section b. of a prohibited firearm states:
"a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,
is less than 660 mm in length, or

is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,"

So by this definition, building an SBR/PDW that is less than 660mm shouldn't be considered prohibited. However, If you take a 10.5" SBR or a 7.5" PDW and swap the stock to a CCS stock is that considered modifying your rifle? As doing so will make it less than 660mm, which by definition is considered prohibited. Or by that token, if I take a 16" rifle and switch the barrel to a 7.5" barrel, would that considered an alteration? I guess it's that "or any other alteration" grab all statement that's throwing me for a little loop.

Thanks

This pretty much refers to sawing off your barrel. You can buy a barrel shorter than 18.5 and it's generally restricted (semi auto centre fire). But if you cut your barrel under 18.5, it becomes prohibited. Same goes with overall length.

 

[yohann160]

Hey guys, I was just looking for a bit of clarification. So, AR-15s we know are all restricted, that much is clear. However, my question concerns PDWs/SBRs that are built.

So, Section b. of a prohibited firearm states:
"a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,
is less than 660 mm in length, or
is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,"

So by this definition, building an SBR/PDW that is less than 660mm shouldn't be considered prohibited. However, If you take a 10.5" SBR or a 7.5" PDW and swap the stock to a CCS stock is that considered modifying your rifle? As doing so will make it less than 660mm, which by definition is considered prohibited. Or by that token, if I take a 16" rifle and switch the barrel to a 7.5" barrel, would that considered an alteration? I guess it's that "or any other alteration" grab all statement that's throwing me for a little loop.

Thanks

They are all restricted.

 

[shredder]

The whole issue of PDW/SBR's barrel length doesn't apply as they are not considered the firearm in the AR platform, the lower receiver is considered the firearm.